Dipper_Dave:
Close but not quite carling.
You may also want to start obeying the ‘SLOW’ warnings in future.
Glad everyones ok though but this really is a non event.
Are you seriously suggesting that would have been a non event it had been two full width trucks or the truck and a coach.
Are you seriously chucking in a new component to this story. It wasnt two trucks though was it…
What if it had been a wide load, what if there where nuns and younglings around.
You do realise this thread is more about a new dash cam surely.
That said the op has had a narrow escape from a wing mirror threatening incident and will no doubt in future slow a little at ‘slow’ signs. He handled the situation very well at the time though. The youtube footage is a bit of a letdown though.
No excuse for the truck driver though who shouldn’t have caused such a problem in the first place.
chester1:
iv seen many of us brits doing the same thing on their first few trips abroad
I would never do that but “my mate” said that he made a few mistakes like that while driving on holiday in France this year, he said the empty country roads were where he made the most mistakes
There’s a difference between knowing what side of the road to drive on and then just cutting across the line with impunity as opposed to totally forgetting.The result should be the same in either case assuming anyone is making a habit of either ‘a few times’ being more than enough in that regard.IE get them off the road before they inevitably take someone else and/or themselves out.
That’s a good cure for congestion take every one of the road that has ever cut a corner a bit too much. you have solved in 10 seconds what the government have spent years pondering over.
Dipper_Dave:
Close but not quite carling.
You may also want to start obeying the ‘SLOW’ warnings in future.
Glad everyones ok though but this really is a non event.
Are you seriously suggesting that would have been a non event it had been two full width trucks or the truck and a coach.
I’m sure D Dave can answer for himself, but that specific event in question was a non event, wasn’t it, end of, so truck, coach, Sherman tank or clown’s car is irrelevant aint it, and in 2or 3 of those hypothetical cases maybe it would be.
By that logic there’s no need to bother about keeping on the right side of the line through bends because there’ll only be something coming the other way that’s big enough to worry about in 2 or 3 cases.In which case that’s just life when the inevitable happens.Which seems to be the general standard of driving these days in too many cases.
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How the hell did you interperete my answer to you in that way ffs?
I was merely pointing out that the specific situation in question was a non starter, you brought in imaginary trucks and buses into the equation which, yeh, admittedly would have more than likely resulted in a different way entirely.
You know what Carryfast mate, I can,t be arsed to get into a ruck with you about what COULD have happened, as we will be at it all night, over half a dozen pages like last time I got into an endless pointless discussion with you, and I’m off to bed shortly anyway.
Night Night x
Dipper_Dave:
But you’ve also left out motorcyclists who are taught the suicidal idea of approaching that potential situation on the line ‘to get better vision round the bend’.
I’ve never understood why bikers do this, putting themselves in the decapitation zone! Definately not advised.
You’ve misunderstood CF’s point which is that (in the UK) motorcyclists are taught to move across to near to the centre line when approaching a left hand bend, and to keep left when approaching a right hand bend. I think you mean the ones on the white line on a (for them) right hand bend, and I do agree that sticking their crash helmet into 44 tonne aint the smartest trick.
Which brings me to you CF old bean. Are you honestly challenging the wisdom of generations of advanced motorcyclists who advocate correct road positioning to increase a riders view around a corner? Of course you should move out towards the white line when approaching a left hand bend, that extra 30 feet of vision it gives you could well make the difference between a head on with say a truck cutting the corner, and slinging it into the nearside pdq to avoid said obstacle.
Edit to add my quote looks like it was Dipper Dave wot sed that, it wasn’t, it was Carryfast. I would like to apologise unreservedly to Dipper Dave, his family, his many legions of adoring fans and also his neighbours for any confusion that may have arisen due to my slapdash approach to the interweb.
Disclaimer to DD, this full and frank apology in no way constitutes an admission of guilt and any demands for monetary compension from either yourself or any member of DD enterprises should be addressed to my solicitors; Messrs Hadaway & Shiyte and Co.
Dipper_Dave:
But you’ve also left out motorcyclists who are taught the suicidal idea of approaching that potential situation on the line ‘to get better vision round the bend’.
I’ve never understood why bikers do this, putting themselves in the decapitation zone! Definately not advised.
You’ve misunderstood CF’s point which is that (in the UK) motorcyclists are taught to move across to near to the centre line when approaching a left hand bend, and to keep left when approaching a right hand bend. I think you mean the ones on the white line on a (for them) right hand bend, and I do agree that sticking their crash helmet into 44 tonne aint the smartest trick.
Which brings me to you CF old bean. Are you honestly challenging the wisdom of generations of advanced motorcyclists who advocate correct road positioning to increase a riders view around a corner? Of course you should move out towards the white line when approaching a left hand bend, that extra 30 feet of vision it gives you could well make the difference between a head on with say a truck cutting the corner, and slinging it into the nearside pdq to avoid said obstacle.
Edit to add my quote looks like it was Dipper Dave wot sed that, it wasn’t, it was Carryfast. I would like to apologise unreservedly to Dipper Dave, his family, his many legions of adoring fans and also his neighbours for any confusion that may have arisen due to my slapdash approach to the interweb.
Disclaimer to DD, this full and frank apology in no way constitutes an admission of guilt and any demands for monetary compension from either yourself or any member of DD enterprises should be addressed to my solicitors; Messrs Hadaway & Shiyte and Co.
No it was me that said that it just got misquoted somehow.
So you’re saying that with a closing speed of possibly around 100 mph or more the best place to be,assuming some muppet like the one in the vid,or those who obviously think that type of zb driving is no big deal because it won’t always be a truck ( or a motorcyclist etc ) coming the other way,is on the white line to first confirm that it is there ‘and then’ take avoiding action if needed and in the hope that you’ll have time to react and get out of the way in time.IE the extra vision will be more than cancelled out by the fact that if the biker is anywhere near the line in time to see the truck make the move across the line on entry it’s already too late for the biker to clear the truck’s exit line through the apex. .
As opposed to my idea,even with a car,of go in slow and hug the edge of the road on the nearside because I just know that sooner or later I’m going to meet yet another one of them and if/when I do I want to already have as much distance as possible between me and the nutter and as little distance as possible needed to get off the road completely if needed in time.As for a truck or a coach as I said probably no chance to get out of the way before the inevitable impact.
That’s exactly what I am saying. How ever can an extra second or so of reaction time be a bad thing? If some berk is approaching you on the wrong side of the road you hugging the inside isn’t going to alter that. The only difference will be that following your train of thought you the driver/rider will have less time to react.
You could always check out the police advanced driving manual and read their advice, apparently they know a thing or two.
the maoster:
Edit to add my quote looks like it was Dipper Dave wot sed that, it wasn’t, it was Carryfast. I would like to apologise unreservedly to Dipper Dave, his family, his many legions of adoring fans and also his neighbours for any confusion that may have arisen due to my slapdash approach to the interweb.
Disclaimer to DD, this full and frank apology in no way constitutes an admission of guilt and any demands for monetary compension from either yourself or any member of DD enterprises should be addressed to my solicitors; Messrs Hadaway & Shiyte and Co.
Apology accepted, I have contacted my legal council Messrs ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ & Co and informed them to halt all legal action in regards to this matter.
Coincidently on the way home last night I encountered a HGV that over took a parked vehicle and crossed over onto my side of the road whilst I was travelling in the opposite direction, this caused me to brake gently in anticipation of this event and proceed to my destination unflustered wishing I had a dash cam so I could replay the drama on youtube with the wife screaming in the background.
I did think at the time that if I was in a truck the situation would have unfolded differently, I.e. the other truck may not have been quite so courageous when faced with my juggernaut coming in the opposite direction.
the maoster:
That’s exactly what I am saying. How ever can an extra second or so of reaction time be a bad thing? If some berk is approaching you on the wrong side of the road you hugging the inside isn’t going to alter that. The only difference will be that following your train of thought you the driver/rider will have less time to react.
You could always check out the police advanced driving manual and read their advice, apparently they know a thing or two.
It makes sense to me, so that’s what i do! Do you ride a bike cf?
the maoster:
That’s exactly what I am saying. How ever can an extra second or so of reaction time be a bad thing? If some berk is approaching you on the wrong side of the road you hugging the inside isn’t going to alter that. The only difference will be that following your train of thought you the driver/rider will have less time to react.
You could always check out the police advanced driving manual and read their advice, apparently they know a thing or two.
It makes sense to me, so that’s what i do! Do you ride a bike cf?
Dipper_Dave:
Coincidently on the way home last night I encountered a HGV that over took a parked vehicle and crossed over onto my side of the road whilst I was travelling in the opposite direction, this caused me to brake gently in anticipation of this event and proceed to my destination unflustered wishing I had a dash cam so I could replay the drama on youtube with the wife screaming in the background.
the maoster:
That’s exactly what I am saying. How ever can an extra second or so of reaction time be a bad thing? If some berk is approaching you on the wrong side of the road you hugging the inside isn’t going to alter that. The only difference will be that following your train of thought you the driver/rider will have less time to react.
You could always check out the police advanced driving manual and read their advice, apparently they know a thing or two.
By your logic you’re going to be sitting on the white line on entry to the bend to try to get advanced warning of someone cutting the corner in the opposite direction.Assuming you inevitably,eventually find one of these nutters you’ve then got split second to react and make an emergency swerve to get over to the left.
By my logic I’m already there as far to the left as possible because I decided that there’s inevitably a nutter cutting every bend every time and if there isn’t that’s just a bonus.It’s a bit like the logic of don’t put your head out of a trench to see if there is a sniper out there.
How the hell did you interperete my answer to you in that way ffs?
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