eagerbeaver:
FFS…don’t encourage him Tango.
Did you manage to touch your toes in the end? 
Evil8Beezle:
eagerbeaver:
FFS…don’t encourage him Tango.Did you manage to touch your toes in the end?
Don’t worry Beaver i can’t 
My toes will be shoved where the sun don’t shine Beez. (Along with the rest of the size 11 that powered 'em up there).
That is assuming you keep still and don’t run…otherwise i’m [zb]'d.
And just for the record I CAN see my toes when I look down. Just as long as I am sat down. Cheeky 2at. 
I work for one of the companies I think the OP has spoken to. I’ll be honest, the reason I work there apart from enjoying the work is the shift pattern; Monday - Friday days with non-silly start times. It’s the elusive Mon-Fri shift that keeps a lot of modest payers with drivers imo.
One thing a lot of these higher hourly rate gigs have in common is they all want weekends and/or anti social hours out of you, which most guys out there don’t want. Don’t get me wrong, there are some rates of the £7.40 ilk I would stop short of but I’d rather work 55 hours 6am - teatime Mon-Fri on general haulage than do 45 hours for a supermarket and be at work at 4am on Sunday. I’m still yet to see one of these ‘desirable’ jobs that would offer me a higher take home pay than my current job without making me miserable because of the shifts. Each to their own.
OVLOV JAY:
The rates you’ve seen elsewhere are the reason your company has outsourced to stobarts. Just ask most former Tesco drivers. The once envied in house t’s and c’s are slowly being eaten away. Stobarts contract acquisitions are as damaging to drivers as they are other hauliers. Just like the customers not having much choice other than stobarts to give work too, soon the drivers won’t have much choice but to work for them
As an ex Tesco driver I can only agree
As I said in my earlier posts,I’m on 17,700 4 on 4 off nights for a well known biscuit manufactirer
Minger:
As I said in my earlier posts,I’m on 17,700 4 on 4 off nights for a well known biscuit manufactirer
Unless you are actually working as a chocolate hob nob taster you need your bumps feeling.
rob22888:
I work for one of the companies I think the OP has spoken to. I’ll be honest, the reason I work there apart from enjoying the work is the shift pattern; Monday - Friday days with non-silly start times. It’s the elusive Mon-Fri shift that keeps a lot of modest payers with drivers imo.One thing a lot of these higher hourly rate gigs have in common is they all want weekends and/or anti social hours out of you, which most guys out there don’t want. Don’t get me wrong, there are some rates of the £7.40 ilk I would stop short of but I’d rather work 55 hours 6am - teatime Mon-Fri on general haulage than do 45 hours for a supermarket and be at work at 4am on Sunday. I’m still yet to see one of these ‘desirable’ jobs that would offer me a higher take home pay than my current job without making me miserable because of the shifts. Each to their own.
That’s pretty much my take on it now,
A supermarket near me we’re offering nearly £12 an hour but shifts were weekends and afternoon starts etc.
I do long hours but only Monday to Friday with the occasional Saturday and occasional night out and the weekends are family beer and sport time 
I totally agree. I like working nights, weekends and long distance.
Less traffic, less waiting when loading & tipping, somebody paying me to kip in the wagon rather than chasing my tail to get home after a fifteen hour day. Valid reasons to me, totally saddo to others. Different strokes for different folks & all that.
Nobody should be earning seventeen and a half grand a year driving a wagon full time though.
Minger:
As I said in my earlier posts,I’m on 17,700 4 on 4 off nights for a well known biscuit manufactirer
For pities sake man just leave the place, its an insult, the company deserve the worse in the country who do at least a £grands worth of damage every shift and turn the whole outfit over in a flooded ditch somewhere before telling the company to poke it
On my Cpc course last week there was an Argos driver From magna park who was coming over to stobarts… he was laughing because he’s 4 years off retirement and they are telling him how to drive an operate a trailer… but he did say he was staying on the same contract and nothing would change
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Judonut:
OVLOV JAY:
The rates you’ve seen elsewhere are the reason your company has outsourced to stobarts. Just ask most former Tesco drivers. The once envied in house t’s and c’s are slowly being eaten away. Stobarts contract acquisitions are as damaging to drivers as they are other hauliers. Just like the customers not having much choice other than stobarts to give work too, soon the drivers won’t have much choice but to work for themYes I know what Stobarts are like that’s why I didn’t go over to them. I just can’t believe some of the rates drivers are working for. I know it’s different no but in the 80s/90s the unions wouldn’t let this happen. It seems the norm now to work for peanuts or better money on an agency.
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Nowadays the unions members have no backbone and most unions are acting against the interest of its members. Everything is decided behind closed doors between the company and the union. I wouldn’t trust any company or union to act for me.
If drivers pulled together and formed some sort of ‘national driver Union’ they could demand whatever they wanted and basically hold the whole government to ransom. Unfortunately the government keep the wages low and our outgoings high, keeping us [Drivers] suppressed and in line.
It’s my belief politicians are major shareholders of big businesses such as Stobarts, DHL, Wincanton, Tesco etc.
Honestly !
Wages have been the same for at least 20 years so who do the drivers of today blame.The older drivers from years gone by or the employers.I would say drivers are to blame for crap wages from the 80s and 90s.
Honestscott76:
Nowadays the unions members have no backbone and most unions are acting against the interest of its members. Everything is decided behind closed doors between the company and the union. I wouldn’t trust any company or union to act for me.
Do your colleagues feel the same way? If so, then take back control, and either deselect your shop stewards or (if the problem is further up) deselect your union bureaucracy and join a different one!
The union members are the foundation of the union, and they are always in final control over the bureaucracy they support - the members always have the money, always have the votes, and always have the power.
If drivers pulled together and formed some sort of ‘national driver Union’ they could demand whatever they wanted and basically hold the whole government to ransom. Unfortunately the government keep the wages low and our outgoings high, keeping us [Drivers] suppressed and in line.
There already are national union bureaucracies! But they have too few members, and the members they have are not nationally solid.
The only way you can have a national union that achieves anything against a national industry, is if drivers in John o’ Groats are willing to walk out in sympathy with those in Lands End and vice versa, and most drivers won’t even threaten to walk out for those in the same yard, let alone the same nation.
Unless you will obey the decision of a national union to strike for the sake of guys at the other end of the country, and unless you will democratically support a decision to strike at the risk of your income to protect somebody else’s, then there cannot be a national union. All the bureaucracy can do is keep surveying members and seeing whether the willingness to be solid is there - if it isn’t, they can’t make it out of thin air.
Guys who keep bemoaning the lack of a drivers’ union simply won’t throw off their mental chains and acknowledge that the national union bureaucracy is still in place from the 20th century. The members are still there to some degree, and many more could easily join. What isn’t there is members’ willingness to be solid.
You can have an army, you can have it stuffed with soldiers, but it’s not worth a fig if members will not, on signal, enter the battlefield and stand together in mutual support.
+1
Andrejs:
I think you was working at Magna Park.If yes that apply for job at Nft Daventry or Crick.They pay about 11.50 per hours.Easy can earn 30+and work 4on 4 off.
Cheers Andrejs yes am at Magna. Thanks for the tip but got a job on Brackmills Northampton paying a bit more than that. A couple of our lads have been to B&M at Crick said they are paying £12.50 but that is only hear say
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There’s a container company in Manchester that our lot use to move our ISO’s. Thier drivers are on £7.50 ph but get to drive a nice big Scanny or Volvo with a fancy paint job and shiny bumper. 
04.08.2016
LGV CE Driver (Days) - Bridgwater
We are currently seeking LGV CE Drivers for our operation based in Bridgwater. You will be responsible for making deliveries on behalf of one of our prestigious clients to RDCs in the local area and across the UK. There may also be a requirement to help with shunting/loading trailers on our customer’s site. You will be ensuring that deliveries are made on-time and that each customer receives a high level of service.
It is essential that you hold a Large Goods Vehicle (LGV) Licence, category CE, Driver CPC and digicard. Experience of delivering temperature controlled and ambient foodstuffs would be highly desirable (although training will be given) and you should have safe manual handling skills, excellent customer service skills and a strong geographical knowledge of the UK
What you can expect:
Annual Pay: c£22,500 based on 48 hours/week (potential to earn more)
Monday – Friday; 48 hours/week; 05:00 – 17:00
Modern and efficient vehicles
A strong culture of team work
Staff uniform
Ongoing CPC training
Can anybody explain to me the attraction in this job please?
They are offering the same JD on a Wednesday to Sunday shift pattern for £25k.
My wife works in Aldi as a Store Assistant. £10 per hour on a 25 hour per week contract. Time and a half after forty hours. More than twenty five hours per week is always available, often more than forty. If she did 48 hours her top line would be £520. Why would anyone drive an artic all week for £433?
To gain experience maybe? I can’t see it myself.
Oh, added bonus. I have a direct pipeline to a virtually limitless supply of Agency Driver luggage if anyone needs hooking up.
Kerragy:
04.08.2016
LGV CE Driver (Days) - Bridgwater
We are currently seeking LGV CE Drivers for our operation based in Bridgwater. You will be responsible for making deliveries on behalf of one of our prestigious clients to RDCs in the local area and across the UK. There may also be a requirement to help with shunting/loading trailers on our customer’s site. You will be ensuring that deliveries are made on-time and that each customer receives a high level of service.It is essential that you hold a Large Goods Vehicle (LGV) Licence, category CE, Driver CPC and digicard. Experience of delivering temperature controlled and ambient foodstuffs would be highly desirable (although training will be given) and you should have safe manual handling skills, excellent customer service skills and a strong geographical knowledge of the UK
What you can expect:
Annual Pay: c£22,500 based on 48 hours/week (potential to earn more)
Monday – Friday; 48 hours/week; 05:00 – 17:00
Modern and efficient vehicles
A strong culture of team work
Staff uniform
Ongoing CPC trainingCan anybody explain to me the attraction in this job please?
They are offering the same JD on a Wednesday to Sunday shift pattern for £25k.
My wife works in Aldi as a Store Assistant. £10 per hour on a 25 hour per week contract. Time and a half after forty hours. More than twenty five hours per week is always available, often more than forty. If she did 48 hours her top line would be £520. Why would anyone drive an artic all week for £433?
To gain experience maybe? I can’t see it myself.
Oh, added bonus, I have a direct pipeline to a virtually limitless supply of Agency’s Driver luggage if anyone needs hooking up.
That’s my point exactly. We are meant to be skilled workers but are poorly paid because no-one wont’s to pay delivery charges. The government says there is a shortfall of 60,000 and unless pay and conditions improve it will just get worse.
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That advert is standard fodder up and down the country pal, and as you would expect they only want to offer the bare minimum to get the bum on a seat. So if there is a supply of drivers looking for work and don’t fancy shop, warehouse etc work, they will get the bums on seats…
Only when they can’t get the bums on seats will anything change mate. 
Personally I’d hate to work in a shop, I don’t mix well with the general public!
The alleged driver shortage is bollox, and only when average wages rise will anyone convince me differently.