hammer:
Divide your cost per gallon (£6.36) by your MPG (call it 9mpg) = £0.707 per mile.
Less VAT at 20% = 56.53 pence per mile.
To get the 20% VAT from a figure /6 then x5 to reach the figure nett of VAT.
eg
Cost per gallon £6.36/6 = £1.06 VAT content. Then £1.06x5 = £5.30 to reach cost per gallon nett of VAT.
Stan
Foxstein:
hammer:
Can’t help you with hookloaders but I run a 6x4 tipper on quarry work in a pretty hilly area. Usually get between 8.5-8.8mpg, sometimes worse, sometimes better.I work my costs per mile out like this;
Diesel cost per litre = £1.40 x 4.546 = £6.36 per gallon.Divide your cost per gallon (£6.36) by your MPG (call it 9mpg) = £0.707 per mile.
Less VAT at 20% = 56.53 pence per mile.You need to make sure that you accurately measure your fuel consumption and that your drivers follow the same procedure each time they fill up otherwise your results will be skewed and you won’t get an accurate idea of where you stand.
sorry hammer, but if you subtract the vat the figure is 58.92 pence per mile, addind 20% then deducting 20% won’t get you the same figure. To get the correct figure you divide by 1.2…e.g. 120 divided by 1.2 = 100. 120 - 20% = 96
Right the bells gone! Have your lunch then back in for double English
Definately need double English should be bell’s, trying to teach you maths and I cant rite proper 
Wheel Nut:
Simon71:
This might be contraversial but if drivers are taking the ■■■■ and dragging the job out on hourly rates perhaps you could suggest amending their contracts from hourly paid to weekly/monthly salary. The firm I work for employs around 400 drivers on weekly salary, there are always a few moans from some drivers thinking that they are getting all the long runs but it’s swings and roundabouts and evens itself out over time. We just offer to compare their hours with other drivers on the same shift using Trutac, works every time.Sound like you’ve got your work cut out so good luck!
This is where it might bite him on the bum, he is saying he gets along with the drivers at the moment, but would they work so easily alongside him if he touches the most precious thing, Wages!
You can probably get away with sleeping with your mates wife or mother, but money is important to drivers
i’m not going anywhere near the drivers wages,thats last thing on mind.
there are a lot of other areas where costs & effiency can be improved just to help things along…
a lot of them have been there a while & are very old school in there methods,ie leaving trucks running while doing curtains up or when sitting in the office waiting for notes to be done,can be upwards of 20mins a time,times that by 7/8 trucks,5 days a weeks,thats a lot of diesel being burned …@ 2 ltrs an hour on tick over,thats a good saving to be made straight away,it’s just getting them out of the habit of doing it…slicker trailer changes,instead of the 45 mins it can be sometimes,see how/why it takes so long to swop a loaded trailer.i’ve done it numerous times in 20mins,working at the same firm as them…when there delayed at customer sites,ring in after 15 mins if they’ve not been tipped,not 60 mins like most of them do…
just things like that i’m looking to improve on,also some of the route planning leaves a lot to be desired.
guy doing it now not happy as i’ve swopped a few loads around due to the bad way he’s routed the trucks
example this morning…tip in wigan,then was planned to go to market drayton,then to speke,nr liverpool,then back to halifax…i told the driver to go to speke after wigan then do market drayton,no times on any of the drops except wigan @ 08.00,the market drayton load was am booking…i later found out that the speke load could have gone in the afternoon when another truck went to deliver to a place at knowlsley business park…that’s the kind of poor planning i’m trying to get rid of…
appreciate the feedback,thanks
John
R.e. idling time. Most truck manufacturers will fit an automatic cutoff switch after a pre-determined period of time. Would cut this out straight away.
hammer:
R.e. idling time. Most truck manufacturers will fit an automatic cutoff switch after a pre-determined period of time. Would cut this out straight away.
some of the newer 61 plate artics have it,but the drivers are reving the engine every so often to overide it!! i’ve suggested knocking the time out facility down to 2 mins,if your sat in the cab you can rev it to stop it cutting out when your in traffic etc…should help a lot.i’ve also asked them all to turn off the iginition when their parked up on break,tipping etc,as it’s playing havoc with the tracking/engine monerting systems,they have ahabit of leaving the ignition on the 1’st click & this is giving the impression that the trucks are idling when their not,hopefully that will ease during the next few weeks & we can get accurate figures for idle time & fuel.the old hook loaders don’t have it the idle knock off facility,thats going to be hard work getting those drivers into the habit of switching them…
Ok, what about some kind of fuel bonus system? Spend the next 2 or 3 months benchmarking each lorry or driver and give them targets to hit. Maybe agree to give them a % of the fuel their saving?
Instead of running in there and trying to turn the place upside down on day two, sit back and watch what’s going on first.
Saaamon:
Instead of running in there and trying to turn the place upside down on day two, sit back and watch what’s going on first.
i’ve was there on & off for 18 months until they offered me a full time job in november…done the most of the deliveries & driven all the wagons as well as other stuff…that’s just here,was a planner/clerk in a previous job on hook loaders,as well as driving wagon/drag & artics for them…i do have a reasonable idea what i’m doing & what i’m trying to achieve…it’s nothing tat a lot of firms don’t already do…
hammer:
Ok, what about some kind of fuel bonus system? Spend the next 2 or 3 months benchmarking each lorry or driver and give them targets to hit. Maybe agree to give them a % of the fuel their saving?
that’s something i’m looking into,part of reason i was looking for figures,at the moment
there’s no monitering of fuel at all.this is why i have introduced new daily check sheets so they can put down mileage/day/amount they fill up.
