although it’s nice to be certain where a picture was taken , i would have been happy just seeing the pic, knowing when and where it was taken is a big bonus and adds interest.thanks to all any way
Buycrider:
Sat.0900. After a night,s kip, I now realise that the" laybuy "picture, and the Chris Webb picture, are probably not of the same engine, on the same day, at somewhere near the same location, as I first mistakenly thought.The Chis Webb engine has a full tender of coal, indicating that it is at the start of it,s days work. The “laybuy” engine,s tender is low in coal, and is therefore ,towards the end of its days work. Also the truck with the tank on, is missing on the Chris Webb picture.
If I am wrong about the rest of it, then I must plead the Fifth Amendment, and put it down to the fact that I am senile , and in any case, it was past me bedtime, and I got carried away with that great picture, and the memories which it brought back.
It was past my bedtime as well buycrider 
and you are right it’s not the same loco.The pic was sent to me by a member of a railway forum and I only posted it to show A4s did occasionally work freight trains.The loco is 60028 “Walter K. Whigham” and the photo was taken at Potters Bar on the ECML in 1960.As this is a lorry forum I’d best shut up but just to say that I still think the Charlie Alexander photo was taken pre 1948.And you are right again,it’s one of the best old photos I’ve seen in a long time. 
i took these screen shots from british transport film the fish run featuring chas alexanders trucks
the 12 picture if not mistaken is the cafe just south of bechin carl
it is mate spot on
When I started driving, in Aberdeen, the guy who taught me roping and sheeting was an old CA driver. He used to tell me about running down to London in one hit and having to stop to top up the ice on the way at varios points along the route, iirc the first stop for ice was Arbroath. He was late 60’s then and from what I here he’s still driving in Aberdeen.
hiya,
to do aberdeen to london at that time legally would be a two day job and you may just get tipped in that time, i know charlies had wings “but in one hit”, roads are better now but your’e talking about 550miles and about 9 & 1/2 driving hours with a good car and thats on todays roads, also the topping up with ice en-route isn’t a 5 minute job and if only arbroath before first stop how many stops for ice?, between aberdeen and london methinks a few, i think a changeover at some point the same same truck doing the whole journey but two drivers, bet i’m wrong and bet somebody makes me look a proper CHARLIE.
thanks harry long retired.
a ten hour shift in the 70s was aberdeen to doncaster or preston area
Hello,here are a few real old 'uns
No clue who took the photos,no copyright on the back,but thanks to whoever had the good idea to take them.
Cheers Bubbs. 
Lovely old pics bubbs keep em coming.
One of the ergomatic beavers that used to run up and down the A1 at night would be nice - anyone?
great photos better than this modern stuff
weres picture of the lynx gone ?
laybuy:
weres picture of the lynx gone ?
Here it is laybuy
I’ve since found out that the loco was designed by Gresley and was completed in 1929 as a 4-6-4 wheel arrangement,numbered 10000 by the LNER and known as “hush - hush” as it had a marine type boiler at 450psi.It was rebuilt/reboilered at Doncaster in 1937 and had the A4 type streamlining added as in the Lynx photo.In BR days it was numbered 60700 and scrapped in 1959.So I reckon the photo was taken in LNER days before Nationalisation in 1948 as there is no smokebox numberplate on her,something that BR did after 1948.
This is what it looked like before rebuilding.
And after.
Anorak off now
Worra picture to say bye bye to the Noughties with. The return of the Lynx and the A4. I wondered where it had gone meself. 10 out of 10 for that one Chris, especially for the technical data that only a true anorak would know. You are now the official Trucknet UK Steam Buff. I can still smell the fish, the diesel, and the smoke , even now. 
All the Best for 2010 fellers.
any thanks for posting that ic of the 4-6-4 best on i have seen so far
Bill
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i remeber as a boy in the 70s going on holiday to aberdeen. first thing i done when booked into house in fonthill road was to run straight down to charlies at the docks to look at his wagons. all the roads roundabout the arches were full of them. they were blue and white. about 1985 id moved to aberdeen and had passed my hgv. i remeber driving round all them thar roads picking up fish boxes which we used to wash up in tullos. charlies was all but done i think. tdg then? didnt they send the fish trunkers down first then general behind incase fish broke down and then the general pulled his pin…and banged under the fish trailer to keep it running south. i seem to remember being told that story. anyone remember sammy Gibb?..jim
I remember Charlies passing me on the A1 southbound when on trunk in the early 80s.They were running Marathons with the big fleet number on the cabs.They would come behind you,knock all the lights off then pass you with cab light on and a cig lighter held up.When you flashed them in the fish watter would spray all over your motor.IIRC from Aberdeen they changed over at Edinburgh,Londonderry and Biggleswade and into Billingsgate but someone might know if that’s true or not.
Charlie.s men did changeovers in Kendal prior to the M6 opening over Shap. They then did them mainly at a depot in the Preston area, where they booked off ready for the return up North.They were still running with sheeted loads of fish for Billingsgate into the late 80,s. How do I know this??. I will now admit to a bit of naughtiness. I know I should be ashamed, but you know what it used to be like. The Preston lads, who I and a team-mate had got to know well via the CB,as we slagged each other off from the 70.s onwards, but whose names I have now forgotten, used to pull into a layby just off Jct 18 on the MI,after leaving the M6, go across the road, and have a cuppa and a sarnie in the caravan that used to be there. Co-incidentally, my mate Bob and I used to arrive just a few minutes later as we headed North. We used to pull in behind them, and have a bit of a ■■■■■ under the sheets on the off-side of the trailer in front, and help ourselves to 2 or 3 fillets of Haddock or Cod each, out of the nearest boxes.We then neatly replaced the sheet, and put the hitch back in the rope. 
. Then we went and joined them for a craic 
. They used to reckon that they had already got theirs at Preston, although we never mentioned our wrongdoing We only did this on the couple of times a month that our paths crossed. Why is it that something that you have half-inched always tastes so good? Those fillets certainly did.
I read the post about the ice which reminded me of a job my old boss used to do, they loaded Ice from Hull and delivered it to Yorkshire Chemicals on Kirkstall Road Leeds in an open tipper, this was a 7 day operation as the factory needed to keep the chemicals cold. I am sure the driver had to go back into Hull to load on a Saturday for Sundays load because they were closed.
I certainly remember the Guy Big J they used on the job standing in the yard overnight loaded with ice and travelling to Leeds on a Sunday morning.