Canada Offer (Sort of!)

Manitoba or Saskatchewan are your choices , and I’ll keep banging the drum for DJ Knoll of White City . Properly run family business with their own driving school , one of the top ten trucking companies to work for in N America .
NMM , McNally has a truck on with them now hauling fuel .

I know a bloke on for DJ Knoll, he’s very happy there.

Dogmandoo put up a link about some PNP stuff on Facebook earlier today, from what I gather the PNP part is still the same as it was, but getting the LMO in the first place to get eligibility to go PNP is looking difficult.

Robinhood, why do people need a second LMO? After 6months on a TWP you can apply for PNP and then an LMO is no longer required for a permit renewal. If people are dragging their feet and not applying in time, the problem is self inflicted and nothing to do with CIC or anything else.

newmercman:
Robinhood, why do people need a second LMO? After 6months on a TWP you can apply for PNP and then an LMO is no longer required for a permit renewal. If people are dragging their feet and not applying in time, the problem is self inflicted and nothing to do with CIC or anything else.

New Brunswick changed it from 6 months with an employer to 12 months, thus meaning that you have to have the second 1 year work permit in place and in your passport to even reach the stage to be eligable to apply for PNP.

Or they change companies like I did and new company said they only sponsor after been there a year add on top of that you’re looking at upto 12 months for your application to be accepted atm

robinhood_1984:

newmercman:
Robinhood, why do people need a second LMO? After 6months on a TWP you can apply for PNP and then an LMO is no longer required for a permit renewal. If people are dragging their feet and not applying in time, the problem is self inflicted and nothing to do with CIC or anything else.

New Brunswick changed it from 6 months with an employer to 12 months, thus meaning that you have to have the second 1 year work permit in place and in your passport to even reach the stage to be eligable to apply for PNP.

Bummer :cry:

This is what makes it a nightmare, there’s no one size fits all rule in place.
It’s all the same country, but the hoops you have to jump through are different in every province and just when you think you know what they are, they change the bloody rules :unamused:

Is NB still a ‘fast track’ province for PR? It used to be from what you’ve said in the past.

Once your application has been received at provincial level and you have a file number, I believe that gives you implied status and allows you to stay in Canada until you receive a decision later on, though it makes things complicated as far as truck drivers go because you don’t have anything in your passport to that effect for crossing border purposes.

In NB like all the other PNP provinces bar Alberta, the driver applies for PNP himself so they don’t have you over the proverbial barrel, but with needing to have 12 months at one employer rather than the previous 6, it means that any one arriving today for example, is very unlikely to get another LMO/TWP 12 months from now and thus will not meet the requirements to even apply for PNP.

Ironically, it was some of the crap trucking companies in NB that lobbied the provincial government to change the requirement from 6 months to 12 (they wanted 24 months!) because they complained that drivers were moving on the moment they received PR and it was unfair of the drivers to do so after all the companies had done for them (?!?!?!). Now its turned around to bite those same foreign driver dependent companies on the arse because now they can’t keep anyone and the drivers are looking like they’re up the creek without a paddle at the moment too.

It remains to be seen if the NB government will change from 12 months back down to 6 to alleviate the problem that now faces existing drivers who have no options open to them who are already here.

My first TWP was for two years, I had it from May to October when I switched companies and got another two year TWP from the border, this was just a straight LMO, as initially I only planned to spend a couple of years here, driving big fancy trucks all over the US and Canada, hence the job change.

Are they not issuing two year TWPs anymore?

newmercman:
Is NB still a ‘fast track’ province for PR? It used to be from what you’ve said in the past.

Its a lot more difficult than it was a few years ago. There are many more hoops to jump through now and they investigate much more and try and find issue with much more, but I’m not sure how it would compare to Manitoba for example.

When I did my application back in December 09 it was little more than a document gathering and box ticking exercise with almost no chance of failure.

They’re still doing 2 yrs but you can’t extend it so you gotta get everything done in that time

taffytrucker:
They’re still doing 2 yrs but you can’t extend it so you gotta get everything done in that time

It can be done in 2 years or at least it could. It took me 20 months to receive PR, from entering Canada in June 2012. I didn’t mess about though and had all my paperwork in place for the day I could apply for PNP and I did the same for my PR application.

I read this week that AINP is taking between 8 & 12 mths to start processing, I did mine in “08” and got an answer in 2 mths.

I took a more leisurely approach to PR, firstly I was not planning on even applying, but after a visit back to the UK I made my mind up to stay, then applied and got everything sent back for missing out my wife’s military service record, which didn’t exist, but we didn’t put an X in the box :cry:

So we reapplied and they closed the office (Buffalo) that was dealing with our application, it got sent to Seattle, who also stopped doing PR applications and sent to LA, by this time all the forms had changed, so we had to resubmit everything again!

From start to finish PR took just under two years, add the 6 months before being able to migrate from a TWP to PNP and the 6 months that takes to be nominated and we were 3yrs in total.

In hindsight I would’ve applied for PNP before even getting on the plane and done PR asap, but my goals were different back then, so I did it the complicated, pulling my hair out way :laughing:

Yeah, although the AINP was quick, it still took us 2 1/2 yrs.
Mine went to NYC first, then onto Buffalo, and my missus was still in Thailand, everything had to be translated into Thai & English. I had to pay an Immigration specialist out there to do her paperwork & translations, Cost me about $6000 all told.
Still, worth it in the end.

duel post.

Mine cost no more than the CIC fees, but they really dug deep and wanted a ton of documents from us.

It’s kind of reassuring that they take it so seriously, until you here how simple it is for folk from developing nations to get their whole family over and then get benefits galore 5mins after getting off the plane.

Being a hard working, law abiding white man can be a huge disadvantage at times :unamused:

We are about 4 weeks from getting our PR, then it will be time to join the mass exodus heading out the door at our place lol. I heard a rumour last week that H & R are laying off 200 drivers in order to comply with the new % rules for TFW`s - anyone heard anything to support this ?

Heard they already let em go Russ but I got a mate who works there popping round later so see what I can find out. On the other hand though I had a call from someone there asking if I was ok because he had heard my place had let all LMO drivers go lol

I was having a chat with my boss the other day there and I was saying about the changes to lmo’s. He told me he knew about it because he was applying to bring in a few mechanics from Chile & Mexico and had spent over $3000 on advertising and that, but he had to scrap it, because it ended up too difficult for him with the changes. So, he went on to say that he found out that he can bring in French speakers at $0 cost and no lmo required, because we’re in a French community and that he’d get subsidized for doing so.
Apparently this has been the case for years, but nobody is made aware of it. So now we’re getting mechanics from Tunisia, but he told me he can’t bring in drivers on this scheme, because we are classed as low skilled workers.

taffytrucker:
Heard they already let em go Russ but I got a mate who works there popping round later so see what I can find out. On the other hand though I had a call from someone there asking if I was ok because he had heard my place had let all LMO drivers go lol

Strangely enough i heard that rumour too lol

I know there have been arguments to get driving classed as high skilled instead of being dumped in with burger flippers. I can confirm Russ that yes a couple drivers were sacked when the new rules came in but they were drivers that either didn’t want to work for the company or didn’t show any long term commitment. Part of the new rules is that they have to try and retain I think it’s at least 50% of drivers that they put through PR