Can any one help me

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limeyphil:

greggy:
anyone that does it in their own time are pillox. end of.

anyone who does the DCPC at any time are pillox.

that too phil. :laughing:

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Stresshead:
You work for aw jenkinson don’t you :wink:

no dyce carriers

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Winseer:
I did my lgv course whilst on leave with the firm paying for it. If I’d hung on for during work and paid for, it would have been put back 2 years. At the time, guys who’d already failed 3 times were routinely being put in again, and I was being routinely refused for a first attempt because I’d only got 2 years since passing my car test in 1988. I jumped at the chance, and wasn’t going to give anyone the excuse that “I’d turned it down” waiting for some kind of utopian scenario (which other drivers got as standard). It was the right decision though, as I’ve never looked back since then, and saw my wages rise every year for a decade before falling every year for a decade once I hit 2000. New years eve 1999 was the highest paid day’s work I’d ever done, so that wasn’t just a made up round number representing the zenith of my trucking career - it just turned out that way. :neutral_face:

You are absolutely spot on there. What year did the East Europeans start coming driving trucks here?

Edit: I’ll reword that to make it clear its not having a go at the opportunists. No-one can blame them.
What year did the government allow the East Europeans in to drive our trucks?

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oorwillie01:
i have worked for the same company for 16 years. last month my boss came up with the bright idea that he is going to make the drivers pay for there ADR. He says he is going to take 2 days holiday off us each yaer. We dont get any extra wages for carring ADR, and its not a must have for my job. But the way i see it ,its for his profit not mine.
IS THIS LEGAL please help

So you’re moaning about losing 2 days holiday a year, but you cashed in a weeks holiday last year to buy a shiney set of wheel trims for your lorry Kenny?

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scottie0011:

oorwillie01:
i have worked for the same company for 16 years. last month my boss came up with the bright idea that he is going to make the drivers pay for there ADR. He says he is going to take 2 days holiday off us each yaer. We dont get any extra wages for carring ADR, and its not a must have for my job. But the way i see it ,its for his profit not mine.
IS THIS LEGAL please help

So you’re moaning about losing 2 days holiday a year, but you cashed in a weeks holiday last year to buy a shiney set of wheel trims for your lorry Kenny?

sounds like kenny has been busted, :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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scottie0011:

oorwillie01:
i have worked for the same company for 16 years. last month my boss came up with the bright idea that he is going to make the drivers pay for there ADR. He says he is going to take 2 days holiday off us each yaer. We dont get any extra wages for carring ADR, and its not a must have for my job. But the way i see it ,its for his profit not mine.
IS THIS LEGAL please help

So you’re moaning about losing 2 days holiday a year, but you cashed in a weeks holiday last year to buy a shiney set of wheel trims for your lorry Kenny?

get it right scottie it was two weeks .and wahat i choose to to with my holidays is…you guesed it …my buisnes :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

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oorwillie01:

scottie0011:

oorwillie01:
i have worked for the same company for 16 years. last month my boss came up with the bright idea that he is going to make the drivers pay for there ADR. He says he is going to take 2 days holiday off us each yaer. We dont get any extra wages for carring ADR, and its not a must have for my job. But the way i see it ,its for his profit not mine.
IS THIS LEGAL please help

So you’re moaning about losing 2 days holiday a year, but you cashed in a weeks holiday last year to buy a shiney set of wheel trims for your lorry Kenny?

get it right scottie it was two weeks .and wahat i choose to to with my holidays is…you guesed it …my buisnes :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

You zb ing mug, you cashed in 2 weeks holiday so you could pay for wheel trims for the truck. :imp:

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^ This

Keep taking it up the arse wullie!

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If you cash in four weeks holiday maybe you can get an alloy fuel tank. :laughing:

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pavaroti:
If you cash in four weeks holiday maybe you can get an alloy fuel tank. :laughing:

Why not go the whole way and cash in the entire 5.6 weeks holiday so he can put some fuel in the tank :laughing:

I so hope this is a wind-up :frowning:

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Cost of employing a driver I’d guess around £600 a week x 2 = £1200

Not bad for a set of shiny wheel trims for the co’s vehicle.

If I was the boss I’d be rubbing my hands together.

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Is the boss 'testing the water?? YOU pay for the ADR?? :open_mouth:

What’s next… YOU pay for the ad-blue from now on!!! :unamused:

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oorwillie01:
i have worked for the same company for 16 years. last month my boss came up with the bright idea that he is going to make the drivers pay for there ADR. He says he is going to take 2 days holiday off us each yaer. We dont get any extra wages for carring ADR, and its not a must have for my job. But the way i see it ,its for his profit not mine.
IS THIS LEGAL please help .Now after a conversation with my boss we have come to an agreement that we both agree on and i apologise to him for the missunderstanding

This is totally ILLEGAL. You are entitled to 28 days holiday per year, but all the public holidays are taken into account of the 28 days. So 9 bank holidays this year so that leaves you 19 days holiday to take.

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Big Ben:
You are entitled to 28 days holiday per year, but all the public holidays are taken into account of the 28 days. So 9 bank holidays this year so that leaves you 19 days holiday to take.

That’s total ■■■■■■■■ mate. You’re entitled to 20 days statutory holiday a year plus bank holidays. If there are 8 bank holidays a year, that makes 28 days you’ll get. If there are 9 bank holidays in a year, that makes 29 days holiday you’ll get. If there are 30 bank holidays a year, you’ll get 50 days holiday. If there are no bank holidays, you’ll get 20 days holiday a year.

If there is an extra bank holiday, that doesn’t mean you can have a day deducted from your statutory 20 days holiday.

Although you’re legally entitled to 20 days leave plus bank holidays, which usually equates to 28 days total, there’s no legal obligation to PAY you for them. Is it the case that your boss is cutting the PAID holiday leave (only paying you for 18 days plus bank holidays)? If so, you’re still entitled to the time off, albeit unpaid.

Either way, he doesn’t sound like the sort of person I’d want to be working for… vote with your feet mate.

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scanny77:
he cant deduct money from your wages without your consent and he cant reduce your holiday entitlement below the minimum annual leave set by government. if either is being proposed i would be seeking legal advice

check out the wtd section, says in there somewhere about minimum levels of entitlement
[urlhttp://www.emplaw.co.uk/lawguide/content/data/98nov012.htm?PageTitle=Holidays%20%2F%20Working%20Time%20Regulations%201998][/url]

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[Entitlement to annual leave

13.–(1) Subject to paragraphs (5) and (7), a worker is entitled in each leave year to a period of leave determined in accordance with paragraph (2).
(2) The period of leave to which a worker is entitled under paragraph (1) is–
(a)in any leave year beginning on or before 23rd November 1998, three weeks; .
(b)in any leave year beginning after 23rd November 1998 but before 23rd November 1999, three weeks and a proportion of a fourth week equivalent to the proportion of the year beginning on 23rd November 1998 which has elapsed at the start of that leave year; and .
(c)in any leave year beginning after 23rd November 1999, four weeks. .
(3) A worker’s leave year, for the purposes of this regulation, begins–
(a)on such date during the calendar year as may be provided for in a relevant agreement; or .
(b)where there are no provisions of a relevant agreement which apply– .
(i)if the worker’s employment began on or before 1st October 1998, on that date and each subsequent anniversary of that date; or .
(ii)if the worker’s employment begins after 1st October 1998, on the date on which that employment begins and each subsequent anniversary of that date. .
(4) Paragraph (3) does not apply to a worker to whom Schedule 2 applies (workers employed in agriculture) except where, in the case of a worker partly employed in agriculture, a relevant agreement so provides.
(5) Where the date on which a worker’s employment begins is later than the date on which (by virtue of a relevant agreement) his first leave year begins, the leave to which he is entitled in that leave year is a proportion of the period applicable under paragraph (2) equal to the proportion of that leave year remaining on the date on which his employment begins.
(6) Where by virtue of paragraph (2)(b) or (5) the period of leave to which a worker is entitled is or includes a proportion of a week, the proportion shall be determined in days and any fraction of a day shall be treated as a whole day.
(7) The entitlement conferred by paragraph (1) does not arise until a worker has been continuously employed for thirteen weeks.
(8) For the purposes of paragraph (7), a worker has been continuously employed for thirteen weeks if his relations with his employer have been governed by a contract during the whole or part of each of those weeks.
(9) Leave to which a worker is entitled under this regulation may be taken in instalments, but–
(a)it may only be taken in the leave year in respect of which it is due, and .
(b)it may not be replaced by a payment in lieu except where the worker’s employment is terminated. …

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found it

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2 weeks hols for wheel trims? Either you got ripped off on the trims or your holiday pay is ■■■■ :wink:

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cieranc:

Big Ben:
You are entitled to 28 days holiday per year, but all the public holidays are taken into account of the 28 days. So 9 bank holidays this year so that leaves you 19 days holiday to take.

That’s total ■■■■■■■■ mate. You’re entitled to 20 days statutory holiday a year plus bank holidays. If there are 8 bank holidays a year, that makes 28 days you’ll get. If there are 9 bank holidays in a year, that makes 29 days holiday you’ll get. If there are 30 bank holidays a year, you’ll get 50 days holiday. If there are no bank holidays, you’ll get 20 days holiday a year.

If there is an extra bank holiday, that doesn’t mean you can have a day deducted from your statutory 20 days holiday.

Although you’re legally entitled to 20 days leave plus bank holidays, which usually equates to 28 days total, there’s no legal obligation to PAY you for them. Is it the case that your boss is cutting the PAID holiday leave (only paying you for 18 days plus bank holidays)? If so, you’re still entitled to the time off, albeit unpaid.

Either way, he doesn’t sound like the sort of person I’d want to be working for… vote with your feet mate.

actually, the wording is, 28 days holiday entitlement per year, which can include statutory bank holidays

so, the fact is, your boss can pay you 28 days including or excluding bank holidays, a standard year has 8 BH’s, so, the 28 days is either 28 or 36 days depending upon how generous your boss is