Winter hire of 6x2 pet reg tractor units was difficult, however a number were hired evry winter from MJ Compton and were generally ex Petroleum Company.
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Great pics,loved the ex army Humber FV1600 of AAA,any ideas as to the colour of the AAA fleet could it be white and blue
Re Humber towing unit, ex Army, these were painted standard Calor colours of the day cream, with black wings. The company was Agricultural Anhydrous Ammonia, a concept of direct soil injection that came from the USA, the reason that it never really hit on here was that the soil had to be at a certain temperature range, and between the months of January to March, and because of the unpredictability of the UK weather there were times when it was an expensive flop.
My contribution to this fascinating thread. Picture taken by Roger Kenney - copyright Roundoak Publishing
retriever:
My contribution to this fascinating thread. Picture taken by Roger Kenney - copyright Roundoak Publishing
A 1962/63 (i believe) Leyland Badger similar to the one 5th Dragoon posted recently. Coupled to a 10 tonne payload Butane tanker (9 tonne if loaded with propane). I had one of these tankers back in 1989 and it was used to collect LPG from the BP rail terminal in Inverness for the cylinder filling plant also in Inverness.
5th Dragoon – I’m still looking out some vehicle photos.
There is a difference in the two vehicles, but for the life of me I cannot remember what they are, some Leyland buff may know, the first pic of DNV 291 C is a 24ton Badger, renumbered 50290 when the 5 digit fleet numbers were used from 1966, and the pic of 85 CRP is a 24 ton Beaver which was renumbered 51363.
The chassis for the semi trailers prior to the tanks being fitted at Rushden were made by Hands trailers of Letchworth as were a load of cylinder carrying trailers. September 1962 Hand publicity brochure stated: exhibiting an example at the 1962 Commercial Motor show is a tandem axle semi trailer tanker generally similar to a number already built for Hire and Supply Ltd , for the use on the distribution of Calor butane liquid gas. (At this time Calor had a national agreement to deliver butane to Gas Boards to spike towns gas which was of low quality) Although similar to previous units built (one was shown in the 1960 Commercial show) a number of changes have been made to the design, the most notable being that of the suspension, where the American Neway system is employed, and this exhibit is the first which Hands have fitted with parts imported from the USA. Two short 11 leaf springs are mounted on the front axle of the bogie, the front ends are slipper mounted in brackets welded under the side frame members the rear ends being located the same way in the forward end of robust rocker beams, which are pivoted about two thirds along their length in trunion brackets, with the rearmost axle being carried on their ends. Fore and aft location of the bogie is provided by adjustable tie rods, and rubber pads are located between the springs and their brackets and also interposed between the rearmost axle tube and the rocking beam, so that the bogte suspension needed no lubrication. Girling two leading shoe brakes were fitted to all wheels, vacuum or air pressure assistance being provided by a dual system (Calor had both vacuum and air braked vehicles at this time) operated through a lever system linked to the hydraulic master cylinder. The fifth wheel coupling was also a unique Calor/Hands affair being a sort of Heath Robinson belt and braces thing which was made redundant when the SAE fifth wheel was made universally standard. By 1970 all Calor units and gas tank trailers had been modified to accept this, the cost of changing the majority of old cylinder trailers was considered not cost effective and a new line of singe axle, single tyred trailers from Hands fitted with a HiPope tail lift (which were never ever used, and were taken off later generally seized solid). This Hands Neway suspension became standard in the Calor replacements and addition until the 1980s.
IAC60 - heres a couple of toys to play with until you find the photos - Calor only ever had one Scammell Crusader and it worked nearly all its time out of ICI Wilton into British Celenese at Spondon with Propylene Oxide and only had two Ford D series five ton mini bulkers which were based in Northern Ireland
What pumping system did the above badgers use 5th dragon? Would they have been shaft driven ?
That Kosangas company is in Denmark; in reply to the question on pumping, yes they were shaft driven and a pretty rubish arrangement as well.
IAC60:
retriever:
My contribution to this fascinating thread. Picture taken by Roger Kenney - copyright Roundoak Publishing
A 1962/63 (i believe) Leyland Badger similar to the one 5th Dragoon posted recently. Coupled to a 10 tonne payload Butane tanker (9 tonne if loaded with propane). I had one of these tankers back in 1989 and it was used to collect LPG from the BP rail terminal in Inverness for the cylinder filling plant also in Inverness.
5th Dragoon – I’m still looking out some vehicle photos.
I also have just found a negative of 50101-BRP 728B, a LAD cabbed Leyland Badger artic, also parked and looks to have been taken on Standedge. Clean and Unliveried in white except for the number on the front flaps and a different insignia on the door. Trailer tank is similar but not quite the same, has a valve set on top at the front plus a standing grid for the driver. Will probably use in the next Roger Kenney book.
If it is what I think it is, it is a modified 10 ton propane tank which was used on the ICI Ammonia contract out of Billingham, it was top loading, one of two, one which hit a low gantry and caused quite an incident in 1969. Curious though BRP 728 B has the fleet number 55269, so I do not know where your info comes from.
5thDragoon:
If it is what I think it is, it is a modified 10 ton propane tank which was used on the ICI Ammonia contract out of Billingham, it was top loading, one of two, one which hit a low gantry and caused quite an incident in 1969. Curious though BRP 728 B has the fleet number 55269, so I do not know where your info comes from.
The information comes from the scanned image of the negative.
OK, I think I got the answer, 50101 is missing from the fleet list of 1968 which were Badger 24 ton, and appears as 55269 Badger 26 ton, it was apparently uprated with the conversion to SAE fifth wheel, and renumbered.
A brochure advertising Calor Vehicle Engineering Services with the intention of bringing in revenue to offset the very high overheads at Rushden, which did not succeed, and the inevitable happened with closure and land sale.
Not exactly Calor but an LPG tanker operated by SHV Gas in China. However both companies are part of the SHV Energy group. I took this photo during my time working for SHV Gas in China in 2004. The whole outfit was new in 2004 and the 6x4 unit is a Chinese built Foton fitted with a 350bhp engine. The gross weight is 49 tonnes giving a payload of 25 tonnes. The unladen weight is very heavy compared to those operated by Calor in the UK (44 tonnes GVW with 23.5 tonne payload). The small silver coloured tank situated on the rear of the tanker (one either side) contains water which is piped to the rear of each brake drum. This is manually operated by the driver and used to cool the brake drums (must have been some Chinese regulation for LPG tankers because they all had them!!!).
Something more modern, just before leaving Lakeland’s at Lye
