A hop pocket weighs around 11 and a half stone, it most certainly must not get wet so that should only be a local load . Just like rolls of paper the condition of the floor matters, if going any real distance the floor is often sheeted and a vehicle loading in the morning would often be kept under cover the night before. So floor sheet and since the load might be too high for just one main sheet it could take front and back side sheets each side and a fly sheet to keep it dry. As for securing it, the slung pockets would be held from around four pockets back underneath the row with the middle of the load unsecured. To get more on for a brewery load they could be loaded gunner & roll with the gunners held by a rod with a right angle spike at each end pushed into the seam of the pocket. The load would then be roped over the sheets. These give some idea of loads ex oast and on the way to the brewery. The last picture is Hop Pokes from the garden to the oast. It was tradition for the name of the farm and farmer to be hidden from view.
cav551:
A hop pocket weighs around 11 and a half stone, it most certainly must not get wet so that should only be a local load . Just like rolls of paper the condition of the floor matters, if going any real distance the floor is often sheeted and a vehicle loading in the morning would often be kept under cover the night before. So floor sheet and since the load might be too high for just one main sheet it could take front and back side sheets each side and a fly sheet to keep it dry. As for securing it, the slung pockets would be held from around four pockets back underneath the row with the middle of the load unsecured. To get more on for a brewery load they could be loaded gunner & roll with the gunners held by a rod with a right angle spike at each end pushed into the seam of the pocket. The load would then be roped over the sheets. These give some idea of loads ex oast and on the way to the brewery. The last picture is Hop Pokes from the garden to the oast. It was tradition for the name of the farm and farmer to be hidden from view.
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Fabulous! I knew someone would be able to fill the rest in. Thank you for that excellent input!
cav551:
A hop pocket weighs around 11 and a half stone, it most certainly must not get wet so that should only be a local load . Just like rolls of paper the condition of the floor matters, if going any real distance the floor is often sheeted and a vehicle loading in the morning would often be kept under cover the night before. So floor sheet and since the load might be too high for just one main sheet it could take front and back side sheets each side and a fly sheet to keep it dry. As for securing it, the slung pockets would be held from around four pockets back underneath the row with the middle of the load unsecured. To get more on for a brewery load they could be loaded gunner & roll with the gunners held by a rod with a right angle spike at each end pushed into the seam of the pocket. The load would then be roped over the sheets. These give some idea of loads ex oast and on the way to the brewery. The last picture is Hop Pokes from the garden to the oast. It was tradition for the name of the farm and farmer to be hidden from view.
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Fabulous! I knew someone would be able to fill the rest in. Thank you for that excellent input!
Indeed, thanks for that. But it does remind me of another agricultural product which I once loaded at Bardney (I think) in Lincolnshire. It was heavy though and in massive sacks and very itchy, as I found out to my cost for the rest of the day. I was alone on the trailer and they came off a belt onto my back, the momentum carried me to the front where I had to drop it just right, and rush back for the next one before it fell to the deck. Thank goodness I only did it once. Must have been 60 odd years ago and I can’t remember the product.
cav551:
A hop pocket weighs around 11 and a half stone, it most certainly must not get wet so that should only be a local load . Just like rolls of paper the condition of the floor matters, if going any real distance the floor is often sheeted and a vehicle loading in the morning would often be kept under cover the night before. So floor sheet and since the load might be too high for just one main sheet it could take front and back side sheets each side and a fly sheet to keep it dry. As for securing it, the slung pockets would be held from around four pockets back underneath the row with the middle of the load unsecured. To get more on for a brewery load they could be loaded gunner & roll with the gunners held by a rod with a right angle spike at each end pushed into the seam of the pocket. The load would then be roped over the sheets. These give some idea of loads ex oast and on the way to the brewery. The last picture is Hop Pokes from the garden to the oast. It was tradition for the name of the farm and farmer to be hidden from view.
Added rear view
Fabulous! I knew someone would be able to fill the rest in. Thank you for that excellent input!
Indeed, thanks for that. But it does remind me of another agricultural product which I once loaded at Bardney (I think) in Lincolnshire. It was heavy though and in massive sacks and very itchy, as I found out to my cost for the rest of the day. I was alone on the trailer and they came off a belt onto my back, the momentum carried me to the front where I had to drop it just right, and rush back for the next one before it fell to the deck. Thank goodness I only did it once. Must have been 60 odd years ago and I can’t remember the product.
But as Robert might say ‘somebody will’.
It sounds like beet pulp David , if it was loaded fresh by the time it was tipped the bags set and hardened into wierd shapes , depending how they were stacked . Oh happy memories ,
cav551:
A hop pocket weighs around 11 and a half stone, it most certainly must not get wet so that should only be a local load . Just like rolls of paper the condition of the floor matters, if going any real distance the floor is often sheeted and a vehicle loading in the morning would often be kept under cover the night before. So floor sheet and since the load might be too high for just one main sheet it could take front and back side sheets each side and a fly sheet to keep it dry. As for securing it, the slung pockets would be held from around four pockets back underneath the row with the middle of the load unsecured. To get more on for a brewery load they could be loaded gunner & roll with the gunners held by a rod with a right angle spike at each end pushed into the seam of the pocket. The load would then be roped over the sheets. These give some idea of loads ex oast and on the way to the brewery. The last picture is Hop Pokes from the garden to the oast. It was tradition for the name of the farm and farmer to be hidden from view.
Added rear view
Fabulous! I knew someone would be able to fill the rest in. Thank you for that excellent input!
Indeed, thanks for that. But it does remind me of another agricultural product which I once loaded at Bardney (I think) in Lincolnshire. It was heavy though and in massive sacks and very itchy, as I found out to my cost for the rest of the day. I was alone on the trailer and they came off a belt onto my back, the momentum carried me to the front where I had to drop it just right, and rush back for the next one before it fell to the deck. Thank goodness I only did it once. Must have been 60 odd years ago and I can’t remember the product.
But as Robert might say ‘somebody will’.
It sounds like beet pulp David , if it was loaded fresh by the time it was tipped the bags set and hardened into wierd shapes , depending how they were stacked . Oh happy memories ,
That’s the stuff, apart from the itching, the bags were much heavier than anything else I ever carried. You had to time it right to get the bag directly on the shoulder, otherwise it either knocked you flat on your face or bent your back in an arc in the wrong direction, then avoid that one in time to catch the next
Come on Guys BRS has to hold the winning Trophy amonst Hauliers of old .
When I joined them in Southampton in 1969 we had three depots in the town not including BRS Parcels , there were so many Trunkers , it was a full depot run on military lines , " if you dont like it , out the gate you go "was the motto . What year did we go on strike for £1 an hour , 71 or 2 , the BRS shop stewerd Bert Trant stood on a trailer in the Southampton baths car park down the docks to address us , BRS ran grimby Fish from the depot in Hampton Park , with stinking BMC threepenybits , they had Boots contract ,and pirrelies and our own canteen but by 1973 there were trailers piled three high , rusting with cracked chassiss , tractors being parked up and drivers leaving for better paid companies in town including me. The only new lorries that came home while I was there were Two 110 Scanias and a Crusader in 1971 to 2 , I was still driving a 1969 AEC Mandator , great Lorry but broke down every trip , I was on such a trip when she packed up , the following day I got an Intrview with Henry Smithers.
Are there any BRS Drivers left from Southampton , because I don`t want to be the only fella fling the BRS Flag .
Still got my BRS Folder . Frenchy.
Thanks Pat .
You wouldnt think those V8 Perkie Dodges would pull all that weight and its me and my brother in front of the Heinz wharehouse that became Offers yard .
and the other is loading in Pirellies Eastligh . Are Offers still there ?.
Frenchy .
My first artic was a V8 Dodge for Mousley Trucking but I always wanted one with a ■■■■■■■ V8 they sounded awesum. GKN Foundations had a few and Mortons.
Yes the ■■■■■■■ had more poke but they were very noisey , trouble with the Perkins was it drunk oil and on the Dodge you had to get you shoulder behind the cab to tilt it everytime you refilled with more , although it was a good tool on cable with all round vision I was glad when they were replaced with Mandators .
Frenchy .
No Offers are long gone after poor old Norman Died I think it went down hill and finally went skint.
Martin Offer (Norman’s son) continued with a small transport business in the docks somewhere but I beleive that went ■■■■ up as well and I saw him the other day and now he is running his own rest home!!!
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No Offers are long gone after poor old Norman Died I think it went down hill and finally went skint.
Martin Offer (Norman’s son) continued with a small transport business in the docks somewhere but I beleive that went ■■■■ up as well and I saw him the other day and now he is running his own rest home!!!
Regards Pat
I saw a Norman Offer DAF on the M3 only this morning, with an OOCL box - second time this week I’ve seen it outside the docks.
Thats a grate photo , Trevor , look at the ropes , dead strait , dollies almost equal , corner boards ,sheeted to perfection , probably done in the street , long after everyone went home , people and cars getting in the way for rope throwing , and a BRS ERF , looking like hes dropped home for a cuppa and a change of cacks before going away for the week . Makes the eyes misty dont it .
Frenchy
Here’s some old Scottish BRS sent to me by Robert Dickson who took these photos at the age of 15 / 16 mainly at the Alloa depot but some are from other places.
Brian
