Carl Williams:
DEANB:
Couple of Seddons from 1965. Look at the price.In 1965 We were paying about £2,200 for a new Bedford SB with 1800 cu Ft Pantechnicon complete similar to one in this photo
Would you have any old invoices of trucks you have bought Carl,always find them intresting. 
Walker bodywork.
Click on page once/twice to view.
DEANB:
Carl Williams:
DEANB:
Couple of Seddons from 1965. Look at the price.2
In 1965 We were paying about £2,200 for a new Bedford SB with 1800 cu Ft Pantechnicon complete similar to one in this photo
Would you have any old invoices of trucks you have bought Carl,always find them intresting.
Walker bodywork.
Click on page once/twice to view.
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sadly Dean, I have no invoices, as you can imagine so many were accumulated, we used to destroy them after they exceeded 7 years.
However I remember in 1961 a 1750 cu ft on Bedford SB cost us £1,600. However we always got 15% discount on list price on Bedford Chassis, as we always did on all makes.
We had two 13-4 Seddons with bodies by Marsden & a 16-4 but they were about 1975 & I cannot remember the price, but Seddon were a lot more expensive than the corresponding Bedford, Ford or BMC and as I have already stated we bought a number of Seddon Passenger chassis for both Marsden & vanplan to build bodies on and we could buy three Bedfords to 2 Seddons and went back onto Bedfords when after loosing confidence with their dire 380 cu in engine & regaining it with 466cu in (Which together with the replacement 500 were excellent) after discovering the huge reduction in operating costs the Bedfords offered against Seddon.
Incidently another more recent price I remember was from 1983. We bought 6 new Mercedes 16 tonners with turbo engines with curtain sider bodies & Radcliffe tailifts which of course were a lot cheaper than Marsden bodies, & because of the size of the order I managed to get the price down to £25,000 each. At the most had these been bodied by Marsden they would have cost £28,000. I hate to think how much corresponding vehicles would have cost today.
However today my son is a sales executive for Renault Trucks & before was with DAF, & manufactures have become more crafty by not producing a ‘List price’ and as you can imagine the price paid by a large haulier bears no resemblance on the price paid by an owner driver or small business. Also in the case of Renault Trucks which is owed by Volvo the only difference is the cab, using same engines & drive but of course quite a bit cheaper. As is Scania & Man which are both owned by V/w. One thing I cannot understand is Man have developed a bad name with reliability & engine quality, & when you accept the difference between Scania & Man is ‘Badge engineering’ with similar components one wonders why. In my eyes the wise buy is Man or Renault against their unidentical twins of Scania & Volvo.
Carl
Hope you don’t mind Carl, I have just tried to " add a bit of colour " to your photo.
Regards. John.
P.S. Click to see the whole picture.
Carl Williams:
sadly Dean, I have no invoices, as you can imagine so many were accumulated, we used to destroy them after they exceeded 7 years.However I remember in 1961 a 1750 cu ft on Bedford SB cost us £1,600. However we always got 15% discount on list price on Bedford Chassis, as we always did on all makes.
We had two 13-4 Seddons with bodies by Marsden & a 16-4 but they were about 1975 & I cannot remember the price, but Seddon were a lot more expensive than the corresponding Bedford, Ford or BMC and as I have already stated we bought a number of Seddon Passenger chassis for both Marsden & vanplan to build bodies on and we could buy three Bedfords to 2 Seddons and went back onto Bedfords when after loosing confidence with their dire 380 cu in engine & regaining it with 466cu in (Which together with the replacement 500 were excellent) after discovering the huge reduction in operating costs the Bedfords offered against Seddon.
Incidently another more recent price I remember was from 1983. We bought 6 new Mercedes 16 tonners with turbo engines with curtain sider bodies & Radcliffe tailifts which of course were a lot cheaper than Marsden bodies, & because of the size of the order I managed to get the price down to £25,000 each. At the most had these been bodied by Marsden they would have cost £28,000. I hate to think how much corresponding vehicles would have cost today.However today my son is a sales executive for Renault Trucks & before was with DAF, & manufactures have become more crafty by not producing a ‘List price’ and as you can imagine the price paid by a large haulier bears no resemblance on the price paid by an owner driver or small business. Also in the case of Renault Trucks which is owed by Volvo the only difference is the cab, using same engines & drive but of course quite a bit cheaper. As is Scania & Man which are both owned by V/w. One thing I cannot understand is Man have developed a bad name with reliability & engine quality, & when you accept the difference between Scania & Man is ‘Badge engineering’ with similar components one wonders why. In my eyes the wise buy is Man or Renault against their unidentical twins of Scania & Volvo.
Carl
Intresting post Carl. Thats unbelievable that you were getting 3 Bedford’s for the price of 2 Seddon’s. 
1959 advert.
Now that is lovely ,must be a pig to reverse in to tight drives though !!1 
Dean ,love the old adverts.
JAKEY:
Now that is lovely ,must be a pig to reverse in to tight drives though !!1
They just drive across the fields!
A Leyland removal van of John Mason from the Wavertree district of Liverpool.
I am interested to know which model of Leyland chassis this lorry is built on.
I have just noticed…There is an Albion badge below the Leyland lettering 
Click on picture for full image.
Ray Smyth.
Hello John , hope all goes to plan on the 5th ,stay strong good buddy .
Regards Steve
Ray Smyth:
A Leyland removal van of John Mason from the Wavertree district of Liverpool.
I am interested to know which model of Leyland chassis this lorry is built on.I have just noticed…There is an Albion badge below the Leyland lettering
Click on picture for full image.Ray Smyth.
I’m sure its one I read about a long time ago, and if so it was a Leyland Comet, and they later converted it into their recovery truck. I think there is a photo going the rounds in the recovery guise
JAKEY:
Hello John , hope all goes to plan on the 5th ,stay strong good buddy .Regards Steve
+1
There were loads of Bedford’s like this one with huge lutons. You could stand up in them.
1967.Click on page twice.
smallcoal:
Hi lads,thanks for your support and pm,s and messages means a lot ,bit up and down funeral 5 Dec thanks again lads
Hi John,
Hope all goes well for you on Thursday coming mate…my thoughts are with you and your family.
marktaff:
smallcoal:
Hi lads,thanks for your support and pm,s and messages means a lot ,bit up and down funeral 5 Dec thanks again ladsHi John,
Hope all goes well for you on Thursday coming mate…my thoughts are with you and your family.
Hi lads many thanks again I’m in for two days then off ,hope things ok with you and the family mark ,a merry Christmas to you all
DEANB:
There were loads of Bedford’s like this one with huge lutons. You could stand up in them.1967.Click on page twice.
That is a big Luton there Dean…wouldn’t fancy driving her fully loaded no power steering no doubt. …would be standing up in the cab to turn the steering wheel full of household goods. …I drove one more or less the same as this one here I’m posting…this Luton was cubed up 250ft…and when many times fully loaded you knew it…the steering was heavy…I’d say that Arlington Bedford is more 300ft o8
This Lovely ERF was posted by Dean…hope you dont mind me using it Dean.
You can see the body is a Marsden or maybe a Vanplan…the Showman as done lovely job of suiting the body to the old ERF…love where he as cut the luton out to still show the bill board…don’t know if Carl Williams could tell us if it’s a Marsden or Vanplan body…be interesting to know.
Me leaving the M50 and joining the M5 heading North to Aberdeen a while back
marktaff:
This Lovely ERF was posted by Dean…hope you dont mind me using it Dean.
You can see the body is a Marsden or maybe a Vanplan…the Showman as done lovely job of suiting the body to the old ERF…love where he as cut the luton out to still show the bill board…don’t know if Carl Williams could tell us if it’s a Marsden or Vanplan body…be interesting to know.
I had been looking at that, and like you said whoever cut and styled the bodywork did a wonderful job. Perhaps they had missed a calling in life. Like you say it is probably impossible to say whether Vanplan or Marsden. At first look I would say it has been off a non-tilt cab as there would appear to be no flap so ex TK comes to mind, but the body shape round the cab doesn’t seem to indicate a Bedford. In fact you would think the shape had been designed to fit the old ERF, which would be most unlikely. I think who ever altered the body did a lot more than would be initially obvious.
I sold a lot of our vans to showmen, in fact at one time there was a waiting list. The smaller stall holders (Like the rifle ranges bingo etc) loved the Bedfords but the larger ones liked anything with a Gardiner engine. In many cases they would paint them & often letter themselves outside & the results were awesome.
