Bedford Lorries, you used to see them everywhere

Hello Saviem.With respect,you have rather “jumped the gun” at least a bit regarding some of your comments on my comments.In other words,it would have been better for you to have waited until I had posted PART SIX,which is below,and covers at least some of the same reasons that you have mentioned for the demise of the Bedford marque :slight_smile: .Part’s 5 and 6 were completed some days since,and I finished Part 7 a few hours since,and in fact I was going post the whole lot as Part 5,but it would have been a bit unwieldy at least,so I’ve split the final part in to three parts.
Nevertheless,you have written an interesting and informative post,and you have obviously had quite a colourful and interesting career in the commercial vehicle industry as an “all-rounder”,ie. lorry driver,lorry operater,lorry salesman,an employee of at least one commercial vehicle manufacturer,and so on,including the fact that you were even a friend of the great late Pat Kennett…you will have to tell us all more,please :slight_smile: .

Bedford Lorries,Motorcoaches,Buses and Vans.TruckNetUK.
PART SIX,PAGE 7.
Another Swan Song.

4.Nearly everything was going wrong for Bedford,including their motorcoach sales:From the 1930s
right up to the late 1970s Bedford were the market leaders in the motorcoach market,one in
every three motorcoaches was a Bedford and outsold Ford,AEC,Leyland,Bristol,etc,in the 1970s.
True,both Bedford and Ford motorcoaches were in the mediumweight catergory and therefore were
cheaper than the heavyweight AEC’s,Leyland’s,Volvo’s,Bova’s,etc.
BUT alas! :exclamation: Due to a number of reasons - including British Leyland’s downright criminal elimination
of the AEC Reliance Motorcoach model in 1979 :imp: :unamused: - imported heavyweight motorcoaches started to
dominate the United Kingdom’s motorcoach market.This severely damaged Bedford’s motorcoach
sales:They dived from almost 1000 per year to around 200 by 1983.The market had changed from
mainly middleweight to mainly heavyweight motorcoaches.

To try and win back sales,Bedford introduced another Swan Song:This time,in 1984,it was the
Venturer YNV Motorcoach Chassis model - but again,it was too late…and to think:From 1945
to 1950 Bedford produced nearly 13000 OB passenger vehicle chassis! :exclamation: …mainly motorcoaches! :exclamation:

NOTE:The same problems affected Ford motorcoach and bus sales,and they too pulled out of the
market.In fact,Ford’s UK and European commercial vehicle sales as a whole were suffering,so it’s
British and European lorry operations merged with IVECO in 1986.

A FURTHER NOTE:With the withdrawal of both Bedford and Ford from the motorcoach market,Dennis
of Guildford,already re-established as a bus builder,entered the motorcoach market with it’s
newly designed Javelin Motorcoach model in 1988 :smiley: .

Bedford Venturer YNV/Duple 320 Motorcoach D776 OUA Emblings of Guyhirn
flickr.com/photos/24286563@N07/2576867441/

Bedford Venturer YNV/Jonchkeere Jubilee Motorcoach B499 CBD/B465 YUR
Roeselare Motorcoach and Bus Dealer Demonstration Vehicle.
flickr.com/photos/26058810@N02/6590949525

Bedford Venturer YNV/Plaxton Paramount 3200 Motorcoach B500 YUR
Ex- Bedford Demonstrator at the Imperial War Museum,Duxford.
flickr.com/photos/51738247@N03/7403875912/

The General Motors - British Government - Leyland - Land-Rover - DAF - PACCAR - Bedford Debacle.

5.To relieve British Taxpayers from paying to prop up what was left of British Leyland (now
in 1986 a shadow of it’s former self),the British Government was hell bent in selling off
the state owned British Leyland Ltd,soon to be re-named the Rover Group.
The General Motors Corporation,once the richest,the biggest and most successful corporation
in the world - and America’s flagship business corporation - had been suffering from
mis-management in recent years (and this continued on and off up until at least 2009,the year
of General Motors’ Chapter 11 Bankruptcy) :unamused: .
This mis-management proved to be in the negative,of course,for Bedford (and other division’s
of General Motors),and in the case of Bedford,the marque suffered from years of under investment
(in the case of the TL) and lack of investment (the TK replacement was dropped in 1974) and found
itself being relegated from being a design and manufacturing centre of commercial vehicles so
that Bedford’s Dunstable factory was gradually becoming an assembly operation :unamused: .The world wide
economic recession of the 1980s did not help Bedford’s case as well,plus the fact that the likes
of Scania,Mercedes-Benz and Iveco were becoming ever stronger in the British Commercial Vehicle
Market.All of these factors caused Bedford to lose money and sales :frowning: .
In 1986 General Motors made an offer to Margaret Thatcher’s Conservative Government to buy
the lorry,motorcoach and bus manufacturing division of British Leyland Ltd,Leyland Vehicles.
As part of the deal,GMC also wanted to buy Land-Rover.GM management must have realised that they
had mis-managed Bedford to hell :unamused: and that it was almost certainly a lost cause :unamused: .So this offer to
buy Leyland Vehicles and Land-Rover was a last ditch effort for General Motors to try to stay
in the United Kingdom Commercial Vehicle Market :unamused: .
Land-Rover and Range-Rover Enthusiasts started a KEEP LAND-ROVER BRITISH Campaign and,from all
accounts,the Government was incompetent in handling the General Motors offer in regard to
Leyland Vehicles :unamused: .So General Motors walked away empty handed. I wonder if the Government already
knew that it was going to sell Leyland Vehicles to DAF. PACCAR also wanted to buy Leyland
Vehicles too! :exclamation:
If the General Motors - Leyland Vehicles - Land-Rover - Bedford Deal had gone ahead,what would
the future have been like for these major players? :question: Going by General Motors’recent history,the
answer would be "Not good at all! :exclamation: :unamused: "…British Leyland was not the only corporation to become
a shadow of it’s former self! :exclamation: - and to go bankrupt! :exclamation:

The End of Bedford.Enter AWD.

6.General Motors Corporation stopped making Bedford commercial vehicles in September 1986 :unamused: ,
retained the Bedford marque name for van production and sold the Bedford Dunstable factory in
1987,including the design and production rights of Bedford lorries,to David J.B.Brown who made
DJB/Artix Dumptrucks (sold to Caterpillar in 1987) and Multidrive Articulated Vehicles.
David J.B.Brown began producing updated Bedfords under the AWD marque name at the Dunstable
factory in 1987.General Motors changed the marque name of the vans from Bedford to Vauxhall in
1988 :unamused: .

AWD TL Flat-bodied 4x2 Lorry F864 RTF
flickr.com/photos/fryske/5261976876/

AWD TJ2 normal control 4x2 Lorry in chassis cab form,built for export.1988.
truck-photos.net/picture/number3744.asp

AWD TM40 MTM 50 Multidrive 8x6 Tipper-bodied Articulated Lorry powered by a Caterpillar 3406B
Diesel Engine.1990.
commercialmotor.com/big-lorr … bedford-tm

AWD BEDFORD.

7.General Motors allowed AWD to use the Bedford marque name for military vehicles only,civilian
versions were sold under the AWD marque name.

AWD Bedford Military Vehicles Advertisements
flickr.com/photos/67384646@N … 1565021091

flickr.com/photos/67384646@N … 1565021091

The designation of the Bedford MK 4x4 military and civilian model changed from MK - K for
multi-fuel engine - to MJ - J for diesel engine - in 1981. During the late 1980s the British
Ministry of Defence tested three competing military vehicle designs to decide which one would be
the replacement for the Bedford MK/MJ 4x4 Lorry:-

AWD Bedford MJ General Service 4-Ton 4x4 Lorry - updated MJ 10 KH 50
flickr.com/photos/staffs999/ … hotostream

Leyland DAF T244 General Service 4-Ton 4x4 Lorry 04 KL 69
flickr.com/photos/kenjonbro/5583127078/

Volvo Highlander FL6 General Service 4-Ton 4x4 Lorry - it was very similar to this Civvy Street
Volvo FL6 4x4 Lorry P398 HKB,and this actual lorry could have been one of the vehicles that took part in
the MOD trials! :exclamation:
truck-photos.net/picture/number9278.asp

Leyland DAF won the contract in 1989,but AWD Bedford still supplied the MOD with AWD Bedford MJs.

AWD Bedford TT 6x6 Heavy Recovery Vehicle K7 AWD TONKA - Prototype tank transporter,tested by
the British MOD:-
commercialmotor.com/big-lorr … rters-on-1

TONKA was not succesful and became a heavy recovery vehicle with Auto Recovery Services
flickr.com/photos/eastlancsl … 885570264/

ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p91861738 … #h1fe0510e

ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p91861738 … #h10f7ce01

flickr.com/photos/33865953@N05/4352444956/

Has this lorry now been sold ? If so,where is it now? Please. Thanks:-

trstrucks.co.uk/products.php?cat=63

PART SEVEN OF Bedford Lorries,Motorcoaches,Buses and Vans WILL FOLLOW SHORTLY :slight_smile: .

VALKYRIE.

I recall when I went back to a previous employer they had a stash of Bedford parts in one corner of the workshop, when I asked about it I was told it was AWD stock and we had some sort of dealership ‘deal’ going on. I think it was some big idea of the workshop manager at the time but we never got rid of one part or had any enquires about what was in stock and it was still lying covered in dust many years later and probably until the firm closed its doors, seemed a complete waste to me. I never really thought much of Bedfords, I did drive a KM for a period so that might have influenced my thoughts on them and the MK’s I drove in the army were basic and done what they had to do, no more no less. I believe they hung onto the TK too long without bringing it up to date, those daft side panels instead of a tilt cab and the spartan interiors. The Ford was a better option. Franky.

Bedford Lorries,Motorcoaches,Buses and Vans.TruckNetUK.
PART SEVEN,PAGE 7.

MARSHALL BEDFORD.
8.As a result of generally poor sales,losing the MOD’s main GS 4-Ton 4x4 Lorry contract to Leyland DAF and the reccession of the early 1990s,AWD was sold to Marshall Special Purpose Vehicles of Cambridge in 1992,who won the right to use the Bedford marque name.
Now known as Marshall Specialist Vehicles Ltd - Military Systems & Technology,continued to produce motor vehicles under the Bedford marque name until 1999,including the Bedford MT
Perkins Phaser diesel engined 4x4 and 6x6 Military Vehicle range mainly for export:-
military-today.com/trucks/bedford_mt.htm

Bedford-Marshall MT13-18 GS 4-Ton Covered Fixedside-bodied 4x4 Lorry
flickr.com/photos/73414487@N … hotostream

Bedford-Marshall MT13-18 Flat/Marshall Matrix ISO Container-bodied 4x4 Lorry
flickr.com/photos/67384646@N … 565021091/

Bedford-Marshall MT12-27 6x6 Reynolds Boughton Recovery Crane-equipped Heavy Recovery Vehicle
flickr.com/photos/67384646@N … 565021091/

9.BEDFORD MARQUE BADGES:-

Bedford Drivers Club badges:-
google.co.uk/imgres?q=BEDFOR … 2,s:0,i:75
flickr.com/photos/50390628@N02/4626980901/

Bedford badge with blue background,from the pre war W-Series era:-
google.co.uk/imgres?q=BEDFOR … 7,s:0,i:87

Bedford badge with blue background,from the K,M and O era:-
flickr.com/photos/aceanorak/ … 5531932729

Bedford badge with red background,from the K,M and O era:-
google.co.uk/imgres?q=BEDFOR … 0,s:0,i:66

Bedford badge silver colour with black background,from the TK and VAL era.NOTE:The V for VAUXHALL
on the flag held by the griffin:-
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bedfordlogo.jpg

Bedford badge painted red,from the 1970s-1980s era.NOTE:The B for BEDFORD on the flag held by the
griffin…less common than the V for Vauxhall badge:-
flickr.com/photos/elstro1988/4095281186/

Bedford badge painted red with the Bedford marque name in a blue background,from the 1970s-1980s
era and another variation of the V for Vauxhall badge:-
flickr.com/photos/irishmanuf … 702769984/

BEDFORD - YOU SEE THEM EVERYWHERE:Bedford’s famous advertising slogan in real life action:-
A photograph of three Bedford motorcoaches and one Bedford TK lorry in a once typical everyday
scene :slight_smile: :-
flickr.com/photos/24467251@N02/7893039734/

10.Finally,and away from the trials and tribulations and final days of Bedford,in this survey of,and tribute to,Bedford Lorries,Motorcoaches,Buses and Vans,we are now going to go back to
the halcyon days of the 1960s :smiley: - one of Bedford’s heyday decades - to finish this post on a happy note! :exclamation: :smiley:
with help from a famous and fun-filled gold bullion robbery job :smiley: and from a certain and great magical mystery tour :smiley:

No survey of Bedford Commercial Vehicles would be complete without a look at Bedford’s most
spectacular motorcoach/bus model:The Bedford VAL 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Six-Wheeler
Motorcoach and Bus model :slight_smile: ;but this model was put to use in other applications as well such as:-

Bedford VAL 70/G.C.Smith Loughborough 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Horsebox GNR 844L 1973
New to Gilbert-Scott,Cookham,then Webb,Armscote,in October 2010,then Burnett,Salisbury,in
August 2011.
flickr.com/photos/10631124@N07/4878081201/

Bedford VAL 70/Plaxton/ ? /6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Racing Pigeon Transporter KTE 328F
Ex-Chris Catterall.Has a Plaxton Panorama Motorcoach front end and cab,but what company built the body? Please.Thanks.
flickr.com/photos/29128993@N04/2724314259/

Bedford VAL 14/Duple Vega Major 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Motorhome FFL 86D 1966
This was actually converted from a motorcoach in to a motorhome in 1980.
flickr.com/photos/38389354@N07/4871094263/

Bedford VAL 70/Marsden 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Pantechnicon Furniture Van UWR 144L
Lawrence and Hill,Harrogate,North Yorkshire.
flickr.com/photos/roadtransp … otostream/

Bedford VAL 70/Plaxton/ ? / 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Mobile Outside Television Broadcast Van
OOW 999G.Southern Independent Television. Preserved. Has a Plaxton Panorama Elite Motorcoach
front end and cab,but what company built the body? Please. Thanks.
flickr.com/photos/dean_dave/ … s-gearbox/

There were two versions of the Bedford VAL Motorcoach and Bus model:-

VAL 14.Powered by a Leyland O.400 6.54-litre 6-cylinder 131 BHP Diesel Engine,made from 1962 to 1967.This was replaced by:-

VAL 70.Powered by a Bedford 466 7.637-litre 6-cylinder 150 BHP Diesel Engine,made from 1967 to
1973.

Bedford VAL 14/Willowbrook B53F 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Single Decker Bus ARR 720B 1964
Leon Motor Services,Finningley,Doncaster.Fleet No.65.Leaving Doncaster’s South Motorcoach
and Bus Station in June 1976.
flickr.com/photos/8755708@N07/6334737305/

Bedford VAL 14/Plaxton 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Racing Car Transporter 472 DYK
Brabham Motor Racing,set up by Jack Brabham,Formula One Grand Prix Motor Racing World
Champion of 1959,1960 and 1966 :slight_smile: .
flickr.com/photos/29128993@N … bedfordval

Bedford VAL 14/Duple Vega Major 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Motorcoach CCU 276D 1966
Hall Brothers/Barton.
flickr.com/photos/76208155@N … bedfordval

Bedford VAL 70/Duple Viceroy 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Motorcoach FAR 724K
New to Langley Motorcoach Company,Slough,now preserved by the Telford Bus Group and photographed
at that great Mecca for motorcoaches,Blackpool.
flickr.com/photos/quicksilve … 273736416/

The Two Most Famous Bedford’s In The World…Or Is It *Three? :question:

THE ITALIAN JOB (1969).

A great British comedy film,starring the great Michael Caine,about a slick and ingenious bank-
gold bullion robbery in Turin,Italy.Part of the plot included using three Mini Cooper S Motorcars
as getaway cars and the following transporter to transport these cars,that was converted from
a motorcoach :slight_smile: :-
Bedford VAL 14/Harrington Legionnaire 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Motorcoach ALR 453B
New to Batten-Grey Green-George Ewer,London.The story line in the film has this Bedford owned
by Charlie Croker’s Motorcoach Tours - Michael Caine played Charlie.Destination:London To Turin.
google.co.uk/imgres?q=BEDFOR … 0,s:0,i:66

imcdb.org/vehicle_6521-Bedfo … -1964.html

The literal cliffhanging ending of The Italian Job:-
google.co.uk/imgres?q=BEDFOR … ,s:0,i:339

The Italian Job is a great fun film,and the Bedford VAL went back to being a motorcoach after
the film was released,please read the comments below the photograph :slight_smile: :-
flickr.com/photos/10631124@N07/934524038/

A full size model of the above Bedford VAL Motorcoach,ALR 453B,re-enacting the cliffhanging
ending of The Italian Job :slight_smile: :-
flickr.com/photos/29485695@N … otostream/

“Get a Bloomin’ Move On” (‘The Self Preservation Society’) :slight_smile: -

The famous song from this film,sung by Michael Caine and other members of the cast:-

youtube.com/watch?v=rXUQlmO-L8s


THE BEATLES MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR (1967)

The Beatles,objectively the world’s biggest,greatest and best pop-popular music group-band to date :slight_smile: ,made a delightfully surrealistic,artistic and entertaining television film musical in
September 1967 :slight_smile: .It was shown on BBC Television on Boxing Day night,Christmastime,1967.
This innovative fantasy film employed the following Bedford VAL Motorcoach to transport The
Beatles and their friends on a Magical Mystery Tour :slight_smile: :-

Bedford VAL 14/Plaxton Panorama 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Motorcoach URO 913E March 1967
Foxes Motorcoaches,Hayes,Middlesex,in a special Magical Mystery Tour livery,please read the very
informative JWakefield63 comment:-
flickr.com/photos/10631124@N07/5767820989/

magicalmysterytour.com/

flickr.com/photos/westernsmt/3636232202/

Another Bedford VAL Motorcoach* - ER…CORRECTION! :exclamation: During my research for The Beatles Magical
Mystery Tour Bedford VAL Motorcoaches,I’ve made the startling discovery that there was not just
another Magical Mystery Tour Bedford VAL Motorcoach - BUT AT LEAST FOUR OF THEM! :exclamation: :open_mouth: :slight_smile: - PLUS the
original Magical Mystery Tour Bedford VAL Motorcoach! :exclamation: :slight_smile:

I’ve just made another TWO DISCOVERIES! :exclamation: - I might as well call this part of my post:-

The Beatles Magical Mystery Tour Motorcoach Fleet! :exclamation: :smiley:

To make things clearer:There is a guided The Beatles Magical Mystery Tour Liverpool,which is a
two hours tour around the haunts,landmarks,former houses,etc,of The Beatles in Liverpool which
employs a motorcoach in Magical Mystery Tour livery.There has been several changes in the
motorcoaches that have been used for this tour over the years since 1994 as I’ve just now discovered! :exclamation: :slight_smile: :-

Bedford VAL 14/Plaxton Panorama 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Motorcoach GNB 518D 1966
flickr.com/photos/24286563@N07/3831033438/

Bedford VAL 70/Plaxton Panorama 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Motorcoach DJH 731F 1968
Came from the same fleet as URO 913E:Foxes Motorcoaches,Hayes.
flickr.com/photos/saxonessex/6780778833/

Bedford VAL 70/Plaxton Panorama Elite 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Motorcoach OOR 320G 1969
flickr.com/photos/fido100/5133022745/

flickr.com/photos/homer----s … 335202638/

Bedford VAL 70/Plaxton Panorama Elite 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Motorcoach SCK 56 K 1972
Originally registered DOE 111K,then SCK 56 K and now VAL 466G.
flickr.com/photos/ian_simpson/3037623991/

This motorcoach was recently sold,re-painted in an attractive maroon and gray livery and
re-registered with the appropriate VAL 466G registration:-
flickr.com/photos/dean_dave/ … Cdean_dave

What about the two further discoveries? Here they are:-

Volvo B10M/Plaxton Paramount 3200 4x2 Motorcoach GEY 273 In Magical Mystery Tour Livery
Maygull Motorcoaches.
flickr.com/photos/db3435/8145914131/

Leyland Royal Tiger/Plaxton Paramount 3500 4x2 Motorcoach C758 FMC In Magical Mystery Tour livery.Maygull Motorcoaches,Reilly,of Bootle,Liverpool.
flickr.com/photos/scottishco … 456439949/

I took on more than I bargained for with this part of the post! :slight_smile: :exclamation:

Anyway,back to the real and original The Beatles Magical Mystery Tour Bedford VAL Motorcoach
URO 913E,including a Corgi Model of it :slight_smile: :-
The Beatles Collection: Bedford Val Magical Mystery Tour Motorcoach (Corgi Classics no. 35302)
planetdiecast.com/index.php? … temid=2455

And some more photographs of the original The Beatles Magical Mystery Tour motorcoach :slight_smile: -
Bedford VAL 14/Plaxton Panorama 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Motorcoach URO 913E

Ringo about to drive this motorcoach:-
google.co.uk/imgres?q=MAGICA … ,s:0,i:102

Ringo speeds the motorcoach around the RAF West Malling Aerodrome in a race between a Austin
Princess 4-Litre Vanden Plas Limousine,George Harrison’s Mini Cooper S Motorcar,a Rolls-Royce
Silver Cloud Motorcar and other motor vehicles :slight_smile: :-
google.co.uk/imgres?q=MAGICA … 4,s:0,i:81

google.co.uk/imgres?q=MAGICA … ,s:0,i:214

A splendid fisheye lens view of the Magical Mystery Tour motorcoach :slight_smile: :-
imdb.com/media/rm4270958848/tt0061937

Some of the cast with the motorcoach:-
google.co.uk/imgres?q=MAGICA … ,s:0,i:211

Somebody please repatriate URO 913E back in to it’s homeland of the United Kingdom! :exclamation: :-
flickr.com/photos/26357805@N06/4459771452/

John,Paul,George and Ringo through the sunroof of the Bedford VAL Motorcoach :slight_smile: :-
google.co.uk/imgres?q=MAGICA … ,s:0,i:345


There’s magic in the air:Aeroplane Enthusiasts,standing on the tops of motor vehicles,including a military vehicle-based AFS Bedford RL Green Goddess Fire Engine,PGW 547,
at the Royal Air Force Leuchars Battle of Britain At Home Day Air Show,watching a flying display:-
flickr.com/photos/emdjt42/3913553450/
#9 Dream :smiley:

FIN

The music genius,Sir Paul McCartney,performs the wonderful,uplifting and joyous outro of the great Hello Goodbye song! :exclamation: :smiley: :-
The Beatles
Hello Goodbye outro lyrics:-

Hela, heba, helloa.
Hela, heba, helloa.
Hela, heba, helloa.Whooooooo! :exclamation:
Hela, heba, helloa - HELA! :exclamation:
Hela, heba, helloa.Whooooooocha! :exclamation: Whooooooocha! :exclamation:
Hela, heba, helloa.Whooooooo! :exclamation:
Hela, heba, helloa.Whooooooocha! :exclamation:
Hela, heba, helloa.Whooooooocha! :exclamation:
Hela, heba, helloa.Ca! :exclamation: :smiley:

frequency.com/video/paul-mcc … o/45469620

VALKYRIE.

S Type,this was the last Bedford bought during this era moved onto Albion & Leylands.

transporter man:
S Type,this was the last Bedford bought during this era moved onto Albion & Leylands.

Excellent picture, & how things have changed since this early 50s, Note the abscence of a N/S mirror, This model was one of their best designs IMO, & just look at the underfloor tipping gear allowing for a bit longer tipper body ,great stuff, Keep them coming please Regards Larry.

Lawrence Dunbar:

transporter man:
S Type,this was the last Bedford bought during this era moved onto Albion & Leylands.

Excellent picture, & how things have changed since this early 50s, Note the abscence of a N/S mirror, This model was one of their best designs IMO, & just look at the underfloor tipping gear allowing for a bit longer tipper body ,great stuff, Keep them coming please Regards Larry.

Yes the tippers had to double up as flats in these days transporting pumps from Sigmunds on the Team Valley to Fawley & Milford Haven.

transporter man:

Lawrence Dunbar:

transporter man:
S Type,this was the last Bedford bought during this era moved onto Albion & Leylands.

Excellent picture, & how things have changed since this early 50s, Note the abscence of a N/S mirror, This model was one of their best designs IMO, & just look at the underfloor tipping gear allowing for a bit longer tipper body ,great stuff, Keep them coming please Regards Larry.

Yes the tippers had to double up as flats in these days transporting pumps from Sigmunds on the Team Valley to Fawley & Milford Haven.

That’s a long haul with an S type pre motorway days.

Dave the Renegade:

transporter man:

Lawrence Dunbar:

transporter man:
S Type,this was the last Bedford bought during this era moved onto Albion & Leylands.

Excellent picture, & how things have changed since this early 50s, Note the abscence of a N/S mirror, This model was one of their best designs IMO, & just look at the underfloor tipping gear allowing for a bit longer tipper body ,great stuff, Keep them coming please Regards Larry.

Yes the tippers had to double up as flats in these days transporting pumps from Sigmunds on the Team Valley to Fawley & Milford Haven.

That’s a long haul with an S type pre motorway days.

Well this one could have a Petrol Engine also, But these S Types were still popular into the 60s, Lots of North East hauliers operated them With Bedford ,Leyland & Meadows engines, But sadley to say they were not good kipping cabs, Regards Larry.

Lawrence Dunbar:

Dave the Renegade:

transporter man:

Lawrence Dunbar:

transporter man:
S Type,this was the last Bedford bought during this era moved onto Albion & Leylands.

Excellent picture, & how things have changed since this early 50s, Note the abscence of a N/S mirror, This model was one of their best designs IMO, & just look at the underfloor tipping gear allowing for a bit longer tipper body ,great stuff, Keep them coming please Regards Larry.

Yes the tippers had to double up as flats in these days transporting pumps from Sigmunds on the Team Valley to Fawley & Milford Haven.

That’s a long haul with an S type pre motorway days.

Well this one could have a Petrol Engine also, But these S Types were still popular into the 60s, Lots of North East hauliers operated them With Bedford ,Leyland & Meadows engines, But sadley to say they were not good kipping cabs, Regards Larry.

My Dad drove a few S types Larry,with the Perkins R6 engine.As you say not a lot of room in them with the engine hump in the middle.
Cheers Dave.

Dave the Renegade:

Lawrence Dunbar:

Dave the Renegade:

transporter man:

Lawrence Dunbar:

transporter man:
S Type,this was the last Bedford bought during this era moved onto Albion & Leylands.

Excellent picture, & how things have changed since this early 50s, Note the abscence of a N/S mirror, This model was one of their best designs IMO, & just look at the underfloor tipping gear allowing for a bit longer tipper body ,great stuff, Keep them coming please Regards Larry.

Yes the tippers had to double up as flats in these days transporting pumps from Sigmunds on the Team Valley to Fawley & Milford Haven.

That’s a long haul with an S type pre motorway days.

Well this one could have a Petrol Engine also, But these S Types were still popular into the 60s, Lots of North East hauliers operated them With Bedford ,Leyland & Meadows engines, But sadley to say they were not good kipping cabs, Regards Larry.

My Dad drove a few S types Larry,with the Perkins R6 engine.As you say not a lot of room in them with the engine hump in the middle.
Cheers Dave.

Aye Dave I forgot the old Perkins P & R 6s, I must be having senior moments again Eh, Time for some refreshments Im sure, two or three drams should do thick trick, Regards Larry.

This Bedford owned by local pop firm
In BARROW - in- FURNESS.

Lawrence Dunbar:

transporter man:
S Type,this was the last Bedford bought during this era moved onto Albion & Leylands.

Excellent picture, & how things have changed since this early 50s, Note the abscence of a N/S mirror, This model was one of their best designs IMO, & just look at the underfloor tipping gear allowing for a bit longer tipper body ,great stuff, Keep them coming please Regards Larry.

No nearside wiper either Larry!!!

David

We found the 330 Bedford, the P6 Perkins and even the solitary petrol Bedford were all O.K. but the most unreliable vehicle on the fleet- including the ancient Thorneycrofts- was by far the one six-wheeler with an R6 in it. Most regular visitor to the workshop, so much so that it got christened, The Pit Cover.

Lawrence Dunbar:

Dave the Renegade:

Lawrence Dunbar:

Dave the Renegade:

transporter man:

Lawrence Dunbar:

transporter man:
S Type,this was the last Bedford bought during this era moved onto Albion & Leylands.

Excellent picture, & how things have changed since this early 50s, Note the abscence of a N/S mirror, This model was one of their best designs IMO, & just look at the underfloor tipping gear allowing for a bit longer tipper body ,great stuff, Keep them coming please Regards Larry.

Yes the tippers had to double up as flats in these days transporting pumps from Sigmunds on the Team Valley to Fawley & Milford Haven.

That’s a long haul with an S type pre motorway days.

Well this one could have a Petrol Engine also, But these S Types were still popular into the 60s, Lots of North East hauliers operated them With Bedford ,Leyland & Meadows engines, But sadley to say they were not good kipping cabs, Regards Larry.

My Dad drove a few S types Larry,with the Perkins R6 engine.As you say not a lot of room in them with the engine hump in the middle.
Cheers Dave.

Aye Dave I forgot the old Perkins P & R 6s, I must be having senior moments again Eh, Time for some refreshments Im sure, two or three drams should do thick trick, Regards Larry.

This one was a diesel the vehicle was a bit unreliable the salesman Tommy Hutchinson from Robsons Blackhill reckoned it was lonely as it was the last Bedford in the fleet which I mentined in an earlier post had moved onto Leyland & Albion with a few BMC’s. We did have a Perkins of some discription in one of the old normal control Bedfords don’t think it started very well had some sort of ki gas (not sure of the spelling) pump fitted.

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Retired Old ■■■■:
We found the 330 Bedford, the P6 Perkins and even the solitary petrol Bedford were all O.K. but the most unreliable vehicle on the fleet- including the ancient Thorneycrofts- was by far the one six-wheeler with an R6 in it. Most regular visitor to the workshop, so much so that it got christened, The Pit Cover.

Aye they were notorius for the timing going heywire, Of course some drivers used to tinker with the butterfly on the induction to make them rev a bit faster,mind you one firm I new in Gateshead had them cut right back & if a driver was guilty of such a thing he was shown the door with a few naughtey words , Regards Larry.

Greetings to you All.I drove “S” type Bedfords on Hall&Co. in the early sixties.One had the R6 in it and it was a Pig’s Orphan to start in the morning :cry:,eventually a tow did the trick.The Ki gas was a joke,it was probably fitted to make the driver feel better! Being 12 volt didn’t help either. The next one had the Leyland Comet engine fitted,an entirely different lorry. 24 volt,it started every morning,no probs and pulled like the train :smiley:. Having driven both the P6 and R6, the Comet beat them all. Regards,900x20.

Greetings,All.I’ve put this Bedford on before,it was seen at Chatham in 2011. :smiley: Regards,900x20.

transporter man:

Lawrence Dunbar:

Dave the Renegade:

Lawrence Dunbar:

Dave the Renegade:

transporter man:

Lawrence Dunbar:

transporter man:
S Type,this was the last Bedford bought during this era moved onto Albion & Leylands.

Excellent picture, & how things have changed since this early 50s, Note the abscence of a N/S mirror, This model was one of their best designs IMO, & just look at the underfloor tipping gear allowing for a bit longer tipper body ,great stuff, Keep them coming please Regards Larry.

Yes the tippers had to double up as flats in these days transporting pumps from Sigmunds on the Team Valley to Fawley & Milford Haven.

That’s a long haul with an S type pre motorway days.

Well this one could have a Petrol Engine also, But these S Types were still popular into the 60s, Lots of North East hauliers operated them With Bedford ,Leyland & Meadows engines, But sadley to say they were not good kipping cabs, Regards Larry.

My Dad drove a few S types Larry,with the Perkins R6 engine.As you say not a lot of room in them with the engine hump in the middle.
Cheers Dave.

Aye Dave I forgot the old Perkins P & R 6s, I must be having senior moments again Eh, Time for some refreshments Im sure, two or three drams should do thick trick, Regards Larry.

This one was a diesel the vehicle was a bit unreliable the salesman Tommy Hutchinson from Robsons Blackhill reckoned it was lonely as it was the last Bedford in the fleet which I mentined in an earlier post had moved onto Leyland & Albion with a few BMC’s. We did have a Perkins of some discription in one of the old normal control Bedfords don’t think it started very well had some sort of ki gas (not sure of the spelling) pump fitted.

Aye a can remember the old Kigas system it was filled with paraffin which in turn dripped into the induction on to a element the got hot by pushing a button for a short time when trying to start the bloody things, They were terrible in the winter, we sometimes used a burning oily rag which in fact sometimes worked better, Regards Larry.

The BRS Big Js fitted with ■■■■■■■ 205 were a bit of a pig to start in cold weather, especially after standing out all night in a lay-by when on a dodgy!
The trick was to take the air filter element out of it’s canister (handily situated at the rear of the cab) and fill the cannister with BRS log sheets. I used to crank the starter and watch as bits of burnt paper fled out of the front-mounted exhaust!.

P.S. Don’t know if this worked with Big Js fitted with 8-cyl Gardners!!!

Retired Old ■■■■:
The BRS Big Js fitted with ■■■■■■■ 205 were a bit of a pig to start in cold weather, especially after standing out all night in a lay-by when on a dodgy!
The trick was to take the air filter element out of it’s canister (handily situated at the rear of the cab) and fill the cannister with BRS log sheets. I used to crank the starter and watch as bits of burnt paper fled out of the front-mounted exhaust!.

P.S. Don’t know if this worked with Big Js fitted with 8-cyl Gardners!!!

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