I think you’d be lucky to get €2983 as the rate for a trip from Scotland to the Czech Republic, never mind make that much as profit on the trip.
is this what you call highway robbery?
at least ■■■■ turpin wore a mask when he robbed you.
Did anyone notice the British truck right at the end on 29:03 parked behind? You can just see the bottom of cab and number plate and thats its a six legger.
truckerjon:
Harry Monk:
If they don’t gas us first.Climb slowly out of your cab and walk away. just keep walking, don’t look left or right, the border is only a fw miles away, and remember, if anyone speaks to you, you are a dutch flower salesman on a business trip to Hamburg!
and if anyone wishes you “good luck” don’t answer 
Harry Monk:
limeyphil:
anyone know how long they can legally hold you for if you don’t have enough money?For ever.
They cannot hold the driver at all, once the paperwork has been processed the driver is free to leave if he wishes, the vehicle is impounded until the problem is resolved BUT NOT DRIVER
limeyphil:
i didn’t really understand the bit on the industrial estate. the guy was parked up unloading, then they just turned up, and took a load of cash off him.
what was that about?
I thought the whole lot was filmed on MSA’s when you see them parked up in rows.
There must be more to it than being 4cm zu gross. (Could mean too big some other way than upwards?) That guy with the logs was well over 4cm zu lang after all, and he didn’t get clobbered for a month’s pay!
What time index were you specifically referring to?
Winseer:
I thought the whole lot was filmed on MSA’s when you see them parked up in rows.
There must be more to it than being 4cm zu gross. (Could mean too big some other way than upwards?) That guy with the logs was well over 4cm zu lang after all, and he didn’t get clobbered for a month’s pay!
What time index were you specifically referring to?
Without watching it again I cant say what the time was but he’s refering to the Slovenian wagon and drag. He’s got a raisable roof and he’s driven with it in the up position. I dont know if you’ve come across them before, but if not, they’re basically to lift the roof of the truck up so that you can use the full height of the trailer while loading/unloading via the sides, otherwise the lip the curtain rail slides in would knock off x amount of centimeters. You’re supposed to lift the roof, put the load on and then drop it back down again. He didnt drop it, he ran with it at full height, which is fine in the UK but in Germany he was 4.04m high instead of 4.00m or less. I’m just suprised it was only 4cm as all the trailers I’ve had with that feature of being much more than 4cm when extended upwards.
The bit on the industrial estate later was the police going to a truck from the same Slovenian company to get the money from him, to pay the fine of the wagon and drag.
How on earth do these guys afford the fines?
Surely it isn’t a case of just phoning the boss and getting the money out of them just like that?
I would have thought the human nature factor would have the boss denying the firm did anything wrong, and instructing the police to keep the driver rather than impound the vehicle!
All this hoo-har fails to encourage a eurotrucking virgin like me to try and get some experience on the other side of the channel methinks. 
Winseer:
How on earth do these guys afford the fines?Surely it isn’t a case of just phoning the boss and getting the money out of them just like that?
I would have thought the human nature factor would have the boss denying the firm did anything wrong, and instructing the police to keep the driver rather than impound the vehicle!
All this hoo-har fails to encourage a eurotrucking virgin like me to try and get some experience on the other side of the channel methinks.
Thats what its come to now, it wasn’t always that way. I doubt any company could easily afford a fine of that magnitude, especially a smaller outfit from Slovenia. That would hurt most smallish British companies as well. A few fines like that could finish off many a firm.
I’m not sure why the other truck had the money, my German isn’t good enough to grasp that (despite being half German! )
As i said in my o/p .by and large in the 80,s 90,s you were left alone except the odd fine for overtaking in no overtaking zones and minor tacho chart breaches but normally this would result in 30 -100 marks fines about (£10–40 quid).Anybody who drives regulalry fom hockenheim to venlo A61 route will be familiar with this .
It does seem the BAG have benn instructed to be ruthless and take in as much as they can .
The check driver was at the end of his tether and looked close to breaking down completely.
In my view this is nothing but legalised extorsion [albeit some of those drivers should have known better ,particulaly the log carrier who could of cut that log when loading] and a slippery slope to all out assault to fill their local authority coffers.
once vosa catch on that these large fines are being paid by hauliers[because they cannot afford to have their trucks impounded] they will up their game and start to get really get ■■■■ about loading ,strapping hours ect ect and ruthlessly hammer anybody they can . the dominoes are falling ,belguim ,spain ,germany, holland ect . uk next?
some of you may think this an unlikely scenario but i think not.
regards tzz.
So the move to alter Europe into a third-world state has begun? - And it has that tenuous connection with debt. Pain-in-the-arse law enforcement, because the hapless government would rather tortue their own populations than default on debts to the shiny people in suits?
No one seems to be personally being fined over the Barclays fiddle, let alone going to jail. Even the lion’s share of the “fine” money going to America stinks to high heaven!
Fine the people that are nicking our money - not the lifeblood of the nations!
Unless of course some of you think a banker is worth more than a trucker! 
twozuluzlu:
As i said in my o/p .by and large in the 80,s 90,s you were left alone except the odd fine for overtaking in no overtaking zones and minor tacho chart breaches but normally this would result in 30 -100 marks fines about (£10–40 quid).Anybody who drives regulalry fom hockenheim to venlo A61 route will be familiar with this .
It does seem the BAG have benn instructed to be ruthless and take in as much as they can .
The check driver was at the end of his tether and looked close to breaking down completely.
In my view this is nothing but legalised extorsion [albeit some of those drivers should have known better ,particulaly the log carrier who could of cut that log when loading] and a slippery slope to all out assault to fill their local authority coffers.
once vosa catch on that these large fines are being paid by hauliers[because they cannot afford to have their trucks impounded] they will up their game and start to get really get ■■■■ about loading ,strapping hours ect ect and ruthlessly hammer anybody they can . the dominoes are falling ,belguim ,spain ,germany, holland ect . uk next?
some of you may think this an unlikely scenario but i think not.regards tzz.
Absolutely. Its not a matter of ‘if’ its a matter of ‘when’. I can’t see it going any other way.
For a country thats obsessed with speed cameras, surveilence and fining people for very minor and trivial offences, its only logical that this new load securement nonsense is only the first step.
So whats wrong…if your load is not secured…if your over length…if your overweight…you get fined…simple…its the same in any country including the uk.
So good on enforcement, and it will force all hauliers and drivers, to do the job as it was meant to be done.
We have all run bent, overloaded, forged permits, etc etc…and many of us waited for the day when enforcement would make our job easier, safer, and without risk, and also give us the status we deserved…we are heading towards that goal…if you are 100% legal, what have you to fear ■■
Our eastern bloc colleagues, are almost reliable for their own fines, and would be forced out of work ( maybe stranded in a foreign country ) for refusing to load an illegal load…enforcement…will ensure we all have a fair playing field.
truckyboy:
So whats wrong…if your load is not secured…if your over length…if your overweight…you get fined…simple…its the same in any country including the uk.
So good on enforcement, and it will force all hauliers and drivers, to do the job as it was meant to be done.We have all run bent, overloaded, forged permits, etc etc…and many of us waited for the day when enforcement would make our job easier, safer, and without risk, and also give us the status we deserved…we are heading towards that goal…if you are 100% legal, what have you to fear ■■
Our eastern bloc colleagues, are almost reliable for their own fines, and would be forced out of work ( maybe stranded in a foreign country ) for refusing to load an illegal load…enforcement…will ensure we all have a fair playing field.
if only this was in the real world.
it is getting to the point that you can be doing everything to 100% of the law, then they move the goal posts to make money. the correct sentiment of safety goes out of the window, and money making authoritarianism takes over.
we as drivers know what is safe, but they will tell you that it isn’t right. and that’s that. money money money.
Yes, several drivers have been fined thousands of euros for having laminated their blue permits, something nobody ever dreamed was illegal until the police in various countries decided that it was.
Even if it is, a fine of several thousand euros is out of all proportion to the enormity of the offence.
Harry Monk:
Yes, several drivers have been fined thousands of euros for having laminated their blue permits, something nobody ever dreamed was illegal until the police in various countries decided that it was.Even if it is, a fine of several thousand euros is out of all proportion to the enormity of the offence.
Exactly. Some of these astronomical fines are not for a concerted effort in running bent, but very slight technicalities and minor mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes, especially the more complex the rules. We have everything to fear in my opinion, no matter how legal we like to think we run, there is always something to be found wrong on a truck if they want to.
limeyphil:
if only this was in the real world.
it is getting to the point that you can be doing everything to 100% of the law, then they move the goal posts to make money. the correct sentiment of safety goes out of the window, and money making authoritarianism takes over.
we as drivers know what is safe, but they will tell you that it isn’t right. and that’s that. money money money.
This is the sad truth and the sort of fines they are throwing around in Europe now are not just a slap on the wrist type thing, but have the potential to ruin peoples lives. An ordinary working man, wether he be from England or Poland can not absorb a €3000 fine for a minor offence without risking losing his home/mortgage and everything that may lead to.
Winseer:
There must be more to it than being 4cm zu gross. (Could mean too big some other way than upwards?) That guy with the logs was well over 4cm zu lang after all, and he didn’t get clobbered for a month’s pay!
It was a fine for being 4cm to high. The legal limit in Germany is 4m, unless you have a special permit “Genehmigung.” The guy in the film didn’t have the permit, when he was measured and for whatever reason wasn’t able to reduce the height of his trailer. His fine was based on the length of his trip, and what the Polizei thought would be an average price for that sort of journey. They actually said in the film that the idea was to fine transport companies in such a way as to make it un-economic to run bent - in this case overheight!
The guy with the logs, was only traveling relatively locally - within Germany, and cut the log so it fitted into the legal length. He was fined for being over length, and he probably got three points on his licence as well, as the Polizei said he would get his fine in the post!
robinhood_1984:
This is the sad truth and the sort of fines they are throwing around in Europe now are not just a slap on the wrist type thing, but have the potential to ruin peoples lives. An ordinary working man, wether he be from England or Poland can not absorb a €3000 fine for a minor offence without risking losing his home/mortgage and everything that may lead to.
The Germans are not specifically targeting drivers, although there’s a separate fine for the driver for being over height, the big fine was directed at the transport company… which is why the vehicle in question was parked up for two days, until the Slovenian gaffer called to say the money was with one of his other trucks that happened to be tipping just down the road. (Although Nieder-Erlenbach is probably 30-40Kms from where the truck was parked on the A3!)