Cuddysplatter85:
73 hours is a good week personally. To the other guy who (Zac) who said He’d be putting a target on his back, yeah too right. A target for someone who wants a hard working driver. Monday 14,
Tuesday 14,
Wednesday 13,
Thursday 14,
Friday 13,
Saturday morning 5
73 hours and about 50hrs WTD
And people wonder why the younger generation aren’t attracted to truck driving as “a career” Work to live, not live to work.
As a Tramper why would someone not max out their hours as best they can if they’re not getting home thru the week? I’m not sure what you mean by the younger generation, I’m 35 and had my class 1 since I was 18.
Cuddysplatter85:
This tool was contacted about the article and this tool also spoke for a good 40 mins answering questions that were asked. The article has only used snippets of what was said.
73 hours is a good week personally. To the other guy who (Zac) who said He’d be putting a target on his back, yeah too right. A target for someone who wants a hard working driver. Monday 14,
Tuesday 14,
Wednesday 13,
Thursday 14,
Friday 13,
Saturday morning 5
73 hours and about 50hrs WTD
Fair comment, but I would really like to think that you pointed out (as I said) the downside of the job in those 40 minutes, because if it had been included by them in the article. it would have illustrated to the public how crap some of the job actually is in real terms…
The pattern you lay out is a classic example, I know it’s legal, I know many drivers regularly do it as the norm, but nobody in this day and age should be doing those sort of hours, especially with minimal rest, in charge of 44 tonnes …with the potential pitfalls that potentially could (and does ) occur…especially in an industry where we are told H&S is paramount, (when it suits them) and the paradox of that, those hours point out in that case,…put it this way, it would have been the first thing I would have told them if I’d been interviewed.
As for good money?
Good as in a nice amount on top line, but far from good when you work out the hours to achieve it on single time.
Cuddysplatter85:
This tool was contacted about the article and this tool also spoke for a good 40 mins answering questions that were asked. The article has only used snippets of what was said.
73 hours is a good week personally. To the other guy who (Zac) who said He’d be putting a target on his back, yeah too right. A target for someone who wants a hard working driver. Monday 14,
Tuesday 14,
Wednesday 13,
Thursday 14,
Friday 13,
Saturday morning 5
73 hours and about 50hrs WTD
Fair comment, but I would really like to think that you pointed out (as I said) the downside of the job in those 40 minutes, because if it had been included by them in the article. it would have illustrated to the public how crap some of the job actually is in real terms…
The pattern you lay out is a classic example, I know it’s legal, I know many drivers regularly do it as the norm, but nobody in this day and age should be doing those sort of hours, especially with minimal rest, in charge of 44 tonnes …with the potential pitfalls that potentially could (and does ) occur…especially in an industry where we are told H&S is paramount, (when it suits them) and the paradox of that, those hours point out in that case,…put it this way, it would have been the first thing I would have told them if I’d been interviewed.
As for good money?
Good as in a nice amount on top line, but far from good when you work out the hours to achieve it on single time.
The amount of downtime I get throughout the day, bearing in mind in still being paid suits me. Generally the “reduced” rests are because of having to sit around all day waiting on a trailer etc. So a standard 11 off could infact be less off than a reduction. Could sit for 5 hours waiting for a load, be told to go park up. Take a 9 off but in my eyes I’ve effectively had 14 off. Each to their own.
Ok fair enough, but to get back to my original question, did you point out any of the negative aspects of the job in general before they curtailed and edited the interview?
Just that It would have been misleading giving an impression of everything’s rosy, (as it clearly aint) as well as a lost opportunity if you didn’t.
As I said, pay, hours, shortage of parking, clamping, lack of good facilities, negative public image and all the rest of it could have been brought forward and publicised, rather than say we were all on ‘good money’ for what we do.
Just saying.
robroy:
Ok fair enough, but to get back to my original question, did you point out any of the negative aspects of the job in general before they curtailed and edited the interview?
Just that It would have been misleading giving an impression of everything’s rosy, (as it clearly aint) as well as a lost opportunity if you didn’t.
As I said, pay, hours, shortage of parking, clamping, lack of good facilities, negative public image and all the rest of it could have been brought forward and publicised, rather than say we were all on ‘good money’ for what we do.
Just saying.
I did but he wasn’t interested in all of that, the article was aimed towards driverless trucks and when I started to bring up that trucks will always need drivers, no matter how badly were treat/thought of etc. Like I said he’s picked the bits that suit him. I spoke to a few lads I know before hand for anything else I might have missed. The interviewer kept nudging me back to his agenda.
If I remember rightly I said it can be good money for what we do, but that’s not the case for all areas of the industry. specialist areas attract specialist wages. On the spot it was hard to try and shoe horn the parking and facilities problems in, and even if I did he has just omitted them totally.
Wheel Nut:
Most aircraft have autopilot that handles 90% of a transatlantic flight, the pilots work is important but short lived.
Take off and landing the pilot(s) will be covering the controls and should be fully alert. Mid Atlantic they may be more relaxed and slower to respond to an incident. They will have minutes to get their act together. A truck driver may have less than a second to react.
Wheel Nut:
Most aircraft have autopilot that handles 90% of a transatlantic flight, the pilots work is important but short lived.
Take off and landing the pilot(s) will be covering the controls and should be fully alert. Mid Atlantic they may be more relaxed and slower to respond to an incident. They will have minutes to get their act together. A truck driver may have less than a second to react.
autonomous trucks will still have “drivers” in the cab as a safety measure, to be on hand in case of mechanical problems or even “speak to police” in the event of an incident on the highway.
Wheel Nut:
Most aircraft have autopilot that handles 90% of a transatlantic flight, the pilots work is important but short lived.
Take off and landing the pilot(s) will be covering the controls and should be fully alert. Mid Atlantic they may be more relaxed and slower to respond to an incident. They will have minutes to get their act together. A truck driver may have less than a second to react.
Wow after 11 812 useless posts this guy posts something that actually makes sense
I remember the people using trains and said their internal organs would explode at that speed, then we had a man with a red flag walking in front of a motor vehicle, just let your imagination run a little, robot welders, 3D printing, jet engines, iron ships, moon landings, heart transplants,
Any idiot can drive a lorry or car, it’s a simple process to remove the thing that can make it go wrong, most motorbikes crash because of rider input,
Wheel Nut:
I remember the people using trains and said their internal organs would explode at that speed, then we had a man with a red flag walking in front of a motor vehicle, just let your imagination run a little, robot welders, 3D printing, jet engines, iron ships, moon landings, heart transplants,
Any idiot can drive a lorry or car, it’s a simple process to remove the thing that can make it go wrong, most motorbikes crash because of rider input,
If it’s so easy how come the genius mr Musk still couldn’t figure out how to do it IN A CLOSED LOOP?
Wheel Nut:
I remember the people using trains and said their internal organs would explode at that speed, then we had a man with a red flag walking in front of a motor vehicle, just let your imagination run a little, robot welders, 3D printing, jet engines, iron ships, moon landings, heart transplants,
Any idiot can drive a lorry or car, it’s a simple process to remove the thing that can make it go wrong, most motorbikes crash because of rider input,
If it’s so easy how come the genius mr Musk still couldn’t figure out how to do it IN A CLOSED LOOP?
Basically they have Teslas driven by people traveling at 30mph. In a tunnel, all by themselves (no other traffic vehicle or other)
But Musk is going to have us all living on Mars by 2025.
There are CGI representations of this so it must be true.
He pretended to teach a monkey to play pong telepathically FFS, have some faith in our saviour
Wheel Nut:
I remember the people using trains and said their internal organs would explode at that speed, then we had a man with a red flag walking in front of a motor vehicle, just let your imagination run a little, robot welders, 3D printing, jet engines, iron ships, moon landings, heart transplants,
Any idiot can drive a lorry or car, it’s a simple process to remove the thing that can make it go wrong, most motorbikes crash because of rider input,
If it’s so easy how come the genius mr Musk still couldn’t figure out how to do it IN A CLOSED LOOP?
Work to live, not live to work.
