Runner beans ain’t been round the track 2 or 3 times though! 
One thing is the lanes are really narrow by the Luton road works and if your doing 50 mph and a truck overtakes you its only missing by a rizzla.
Think there should be a hgv no overtaking ban on these or they could have done just 2 wide lanes.
On M25 near J10 theres a 50 limit for new service area and here again really narrow lane and ramps so truck takes off like Starsky and Hutch
driver2012:
One thing is the lanes are really narrow by the Luton road works and if your doing 50 mph and a truck overtakes you its only missing by a rizzla.
Think there should be a hgv no overtaking ban on these or they could have done just 2 wide lanes.
On M25 near J10 theres a 50 limit for new service area and here again really narrow lane and ramps so truck takes off like Starsky and Hutch
Are you ■■■■■■’ ■■■■■■■■ me?? With the Rover and Nissan Micra drivers in our way, sometimes we have to use lane 2, and that’s only if there isn’t muppets in that lane doing 30mph too.
Average speed cameras are a pain in the arse, and 50mph limits with cameras are arguably more dangerous than leaving the limit at 70, people seem to wander more at slower speeds, it takes longer to pass other vehicles too meaning longer next to each other, and, as you said, not much room normally. Then you get the muppets that think it’s a substitute for solid white lines and won’t move lane no matter what.
I have been told that the specs cameras on M1 J10-13 are set at 57 mph. I dont know how true this is. We were told lately that between 300-400 drivers a month are being fined. Perhaps if this was advertised, more would slow down. But then they would raise less money
OH MY GOD !!! I can’t believe what I’m reading here on the ‘UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS’ forum.
I speed through the roadworks at blah blah blah. The reason these roadworks have lower limits and speed camera’s galore whether they are real or not is because there are men and women on the motorway working with their minds on their job and not on traffic just feet away from them doing 56mph in trucks or more in cars with only a traffic cone between them.
As for the camera’s. I think they could be mostly fake, just a deterrent to stop silly drivers speeding through dangerous areas. Firstly there was an article in the paper which said that the UK’s 1st average speed camera’s were being trialled down in kent on a section of road and were going live from such and such a date. This was in the paper around 9 months ago, average speed camera’s have been in our roadworks for a lot longer than that. For the camera’s to work they need to be highly accurately set apart to the inch or evidence wouldn’t stand up in court. Are you telling me that when they put them up at roadwork sites that they close the motorways and painstakingly measure the distance between each camera, bear in mind that it is not the position of the camera but it is the angle that the camera sits at as oppose to where it reads the vehicle number plate. Also, if a vehicle switches lanes from the outside to the inner lane in the ‘zone’ then the camera’s are in different positions as far as accuracy is concerned. Anyway, who cares, I ain’t trying it out and will quite happily stay at the speed limit as it’s there for a reason, more so because of the workers and tight lanes.
Strange, I’ve always found that car drivers slow down to 45mph between cameras then slow down to 40mph when they pass the cameras (do they understand the concept of average speed?). Also noticed a lot of lorries slowing down recently when they used to just sit on their limiter.
If it’s safe to do so I just sit on the limiter and haven’t been ticketed.
Yes, I know I am technically speeding through the road works, but I’ve never once seen a lorry slow to 50mph on a dual carriage way, so those who do slow down through the cameras are doing so out of fear of gaining points rather than road safety.
waddy640:
Coffeeholic:
TTX boy:
Ive noticed that when im driving through roadworks and they have average speed cameras and the speed limit is 50mph,there are lots of cars going past at much faster speeds.
I stick to about 48mph but these cars and some trucks just dont seem to slow down.You’re doing an indicated 48 so in fact are going to to be doing nearer 45,
If you believe a sat-nav to be more accurate than a tacho then that is fiction. In some cases the tacho reads lower than the sat-nav.
I didn’t say that. I haven’t used a Sat Nav for over 5 years so I have no idea what they are like speed wise. What I was saying is that tachos are not accurate with regard to speed and if the tacho is showing 48 the vehicle will, in all likelihood be be doing 2 - 3 mph less.
The mother in law got a NIP for going through the ones at Luton, not sure on the speed but was over 60, so the definitely work…
I am here: maps.google.com/maps?ll=52.524390,-1.222132
The mother in law got a NIP for going through the ones at Luton, not sure on the speed but was over 60, so the definitely work…
I am here: maps.google.com/maps?ll=52.524390,-1.222132
I speed through them cos thats how I roll 
I also ate a polo whilst driving the other day too
Im soooooo unprofessional its crazy
Squiddy:
Strange, I’ve always found that car drivers slow down to 45mph between cameras then slow down to 40mph when they pass the cameras (do they understand the concept of average speed?). Also noticed a lot of lorries slowing down recently when they used to just sit on their limiter.If it’s safe to do so I just sit on the limiter and haven’t been ticketed.
Yes, I know I am technically speeding through the road works, but I’ve never once seen a lorry slow to 50mph on a dual carriage way, so those who do slow down through the cameras are doing so out of fear of gaining points rather than road safety.
Thats right! They is well nippy, going on mile after mile. I just sit at 50 but plenty moron lane hoggers make life difficult. Not to mention the breakdowns that always seem to happen just after the dartford tunnel or passing Luton causing miles of tailbacks.
Why folk want to risk 3pts baffles me, even if they don’t currently do you for being on the limiter, what if they change there minds?
TTX boy:
Thanks for your views on this.
I think for the sake of about 5-7 mph for about 3-4 miles im not gonna take any chances.
I dont wanna get a £60 fine and 3 points.
I don’t fancy much having to fork out another £60 (+cost +victim support surcharge) either.
But now my old points have expired I’m debating whether to put my hands in my pocket and get another three.
After all, a few penalty points (SP10) might be secretly considered an additional and valuable qualification by some i.e.
“I see that you don’t hang about, how soon can you start?”.
It could all pay for itself in the end and all at similar price to a days DCPC training.
Does anyone have any views on this?
bubsy06:
I speed through them cos thats how I roll
I also ate a polo whilst driving the other day too
Im soooooo so called unprofessional its crazy
FTFY. You’re welcome. 
Red Squirrel:
TTX boy:
Thanks for your views on this.
I think for the sake of about 5-7 mph for about 3-4 miles im not gonna take any chances.
I dont wanna get a £60 fine and 3 points.I don’t fancy much having to fork out another £60 (+cost +victim support surcharge) either.
But now my old points have expired I’m debating whether to put my hands in my pocket and get another three.
After all, a few penalty points (SP10) might be secretly considered an additional and valuable qualification by some i.e.
“I see that you don’t hang about, how soon can you start?”.It could all pay for itself in the end and all at similar price to a days DCPC training.
Does anyone have any views on this?
Only the many job adverts asking for a clean license. 
As well as the 3pts now could mean a ban later on when done for something else. 
Snudger:
Someone complained on pepipoo.com fairly recently that, although they had well exceeded the speed limit at one point (and were somehow caught doing so), their average speed was within the maximum! They honestly seemed to think it was OK to exceed the speed limit despite the prohibition being an obvious maximum. In general though, if working, these types of camera (SPECS?) are likely to get you if your average speed exceeds the limit by a reasonably excessive amount (ACPO guidelines are 10% + 2mph so they say).
With average speed cameras you could spend half the distance at 60mph and the other at 38mph and your average would be 49mph, so you would be breaking the speed limit but not trigger the 50mph average cameras
TC
Squiddy:
Strange, I’ve always found that car drivers slow down to 45mph between cameras then slow down to 40mph when they pass the cameras (do they understand the concept of average speed?). Also noticed a lot of lorries slowing down recently when they used to just sit on their limiter.If it’s safe to do so I just sit on the limiter and haven’t been ticketed.
Yes, I know I am technically speeding through the road works, but I’ve never once seen a lorry slow to 50mph on a dual carriage way, so those who do slow down through the cameras are doing so out of fear of gaining points rather than road safety.
I do 50 on duals, 40 on singles, speed limit through average cameras etc…
Doesn’t put a few mins on the day, can be slightly annoying if you’ve passed someone then the pass you in the roadworks and you’ve gotta go through all that hassle again.
waynedl:
…can be slightly annoying if you’ve passed someone then the pass you in the roadworks and you’ve gotta go through all that hassle again.
I get that every night. Trucks pass me between 14 and 13 and then when we get into the roadworks I sail past them when they slow down. Get quite a few glares from the drivers but [zb] 'em. Some of them flip me the bird but they aren’t very good at it as they are holding up 5 fingers, so I show them the correct way by using just 1. They don’t have to go through all the hassle of passing me again because those roadworks are so long they don’t catch me back up by the time I take the 414 at J8.
pavaroti:
Red Squirrel:
TTX boy:
Thanks for your views on this.
I think for the sake of about 5-7 mph for about 3-4 miles im not gonna take any chances.
I dont wanna get a £60 fine and 3 points.I don’t fancy much having to fork out another £60 (+cost +victim support surcharge) either.
But now my old points have expired I’m debating whether to put my hands in my pocket and get another three.
After all, a few penalty points (SP10) might be secretly considered an additional and valuable qualification by some i.e.
“I see that you don’t hang about, how soon can you start?”.
Does anyone have any views on this?Only the many job adverts asking for a clean license.
I can see your logic, but you couldn’t you just as easily say that working increases your chances of getting a ban? 
Now I’m not seriously suggesting anyone really go out of the way to get themselves prosecuted 
But with most ads asking for no more than 6 points (due to the insurance), it does make me wonder whether 3 points for speeding really work against you. 
And you might not get done for something later 
the AVC on the junction of m25/m3 work asa girl i know got done for doing 70
Kerbdog:
OH MY GOD !!! I can’t believe what I’m reading here on the ‘UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS’ forum.I speed through the roadworks at blah blah blah. The reason these roadworks have lower limits and speed camera’s galore whether they are real or not is because there are men and women on the motorway working with their minds on their job and not on traffic just feet away from them doing 56mph in trucks or more in cars with only a traffic cone between them.
As for the camera’s. I think they could be mostly fake, I ain’t trying it out and will quite happily stay at the speed limit as it’s there for a reason, more so because of the workers and tight lanes.
+1 Exactly, the limit is set for a reason, why give the Anti-truck brigade more ammo to chuck at us, the job takes a few minutes longer, So What??