stevenmac08:
sorry mate no way in hell has the OC MT managed to get classes put on someone licence is just doesnt work like that. An officer doesnt have anything to do with testing, proof has to sent to the Master Driver of instruction ( Civilian or Military Cpl or up) and a pass certificate. No Master Driver will sign off on it unless it 100% correct it just doesn’t happen.
Sounds like he got lucky and DVLA have cocked it up then. Free class 1
He can’t reverse a Transit in a straight line, let alone an artic.
taffytrucker:
I did mine in the Army took me 50 hrs to do my class 3 week n half then for class one then all the other driver training thrown in was just over 6 weeks long how many civvy schools do that sort of service■■? The ASMT is a great place to learn to drive as that’s all you do there. Anyone thought that just MAYBE he mightve hooked up right but the jaws gave way?? It does happen
NAH bet you a dime to a dozen, he just caught the lip of the pin when hooking up
nah dvla wont put on license if past the 2 year mark to send pass certificate to them i done my cat H license in 2001 then i was on courses for almost every tracked vehicle the army had from cvrt, diggers and challenger 2 tanks then i was posted out to iraq/kuwait in jan 2003 so i was asked to give my license to sergant who whould post it off to get added on but he was posted out to falklands as a last min posting so didnt get done so i lost my entitlement to drive cat H not that i need it now lol
paul@midway:
Wouldn’t be surprised if he missed the pin tbh.
There seems to be an “army” of retards out there dropping loaded and unloaded trailers too high.
So high in fact you just about get under them and the legs are still welded to the floor.
Idiots.
Its got to the way they are being instructed ATM, there are too many that are left too high just lately, it doesnt help at your place with all the "new" agency lads, [who have replaced all the higher earners on agency], who seem to not give a ■■■■ [so im told]
Monkeys / Peanuts syndrome
You’re right it really doesn’t help when 28T is now loaded onto a trailer thats been dropped too high.I can’t understand it,the whole point is to be able to get under the trailer with the unit arse down then lift it to get the legs off the floor to save bending them.
It annoys the ■■■■ out of me now and I do wind empty ones down when I see they are dropped to high.
Happening a lot on the shunt atm when agencies are on (no I’m not being stereotypical with that)
A really good or bad example whichever way you look at it is when a peril has a trailer right up and the legs are still skimming the floor.Shouldn’t be happening.
bigtruck:
As limeyphill says half of them don’t do the training,a couple of laps of the parade square and they’re signed off,
Might have been the case back in world war 2 or the days of National Service but it certainly hasn’t been the case since the late 1980’s.
Went into the Army in 1955 for National Service at Eighteen, previously had been Driving an ex Army Commer for the Local Council but still had to go to Aldershot for 6 Weeks Driver Training, after passing that was sent to do a Crane Operators Course, after you passed it you were paid about seven Shillings more a Week but only after you had passed a B4 Lorry Drivers Test, even if you did not pass the B4 test you were still sent to drive 6 Wheel Albions with a Jones KL66 Crane on the back, also 6 Wheel Thornycrofts with Coles Cranes the only difference was you did not get paid the extra Money.Then got Posted to an MT Section as a Lorry Driver,then the silly bit comes in , the MT Sargent if you did not have a driving licence and you Played Fooball or somekind of Sport or even if he just liked your Face he would take you round the Camp a few times and hey presto you a driving licence, one Guy was a Football Player and within a few days was Driving the biggest in the place which was a Bedford QL Troop Carrier.
bigtruck:
As limeyphill says half of them don’t do the training,a couple of laps of the parade square and they’re signed off,
Might have been the case back in world war 2 or the days of National Service but it certainly hasn’t been the case since the late 1980’s.
Went into the Army in 1955 for National Service at Eighteen, previously had been Driving an ex Army Commer for the Local Council but still had to go to Aldershot for 6 Weeks Driver Training, after passing that was sent to do a Crane Operators Course, after you passed it you were paid about seven Shillings more a Week but only after you had passed a B4 Lorry Drivers Test, even if you did not pass the B4 test you were still sent to drive 6 Wheel Albions with a Jones KL66 Crane on the back, also 6 Wheel Thornycrofts with Coles Cranes the only difference was you did not get paid the extra Money.Then got Posted to an MT Section as a Lorry Driver,then the silly bit comes in , the MT Sargent if you did not have a driving licence and you Played Fooball or somekind of Sport or even if he just liked your Face he would take you round the Camp a few times and hey presto you a driving licence, one Guy was a Football Player and within a few days was Driving the biggest in the place which was a Bedford QL Troop Carrier.
Ben.
A lot has changed since 1955 Ben. My crane operators course was 4 weeks long with civilian CITB accredited instructors. That was in 1993 at the Royal Engineers training depot.
bigtruck:
As limeyphill says half of them don’t do the training,a couple of laps of the parade square and they’re signed off,
Might have been the case back in world war 2 or the days of National Service but it certainly hasn’t been the case since the late 1980’s.
Went into the Army in 1955 for National Service at Eighteen, previously had been Driving an ex Army Commer for the Local Council but still had to go to Aldershot for 6 Weeks Driver Training, after passing that was sent to do a Crane Operators Course, after you passed it you were paid about seven Shillings more a Week but only after you had passed a B4 Lorry Drivers Test, even if you did not pass the B4 test you were still sent to drive 6 Wheel Albions with a Jones KL66 Crane on the back, also 6 Wheel Thornycrofts with Coles Cranes the only difference was you did not get paid the extra Money.Then got Posted to an MT Section as a Lorry Driver,then the silly bit comes in , the MT Sargent if you did not have a driving licence and you Played Fooball or somekind of Sport or even if he just liked your Face he would take you round the Camp a few times and hey presto you a driving licence, one Guy was a Football Player and within a few days was Driving the biggest in the place which was a Bedford QL Troop Carrier.
Ben.
A lot has changed since 1955 Ben. My crane operators course was 4 weeks long with civilian CITB accredited instructors. That was in 1993 at the Royal Engineers training depot.
and it changed again when i done mine in 2006. 2 week course 2 weeks experience ( sit there and watch) then your screwed as no nvq lvl 2 and no experience so no one will give you a job
bigtruck:
As limeyphill says half of them don’t do the training,a couple of laps of the parade square and they’re signed off,
Might have been the case back in world war 2 or the days of National Service but it certainly hasn’t been the case since the late 1980’s.
Went into the Army in 1955 for National Service at Eighteen, previously had been Driving an ex Army Commer for the Local Council but still had to go to Aldershot for 6 Weeks Driver Training,then tested by civvy testers, after passing that was sent to do a Crane Operators Course, after you passed it you were paid about seven Shillings more a Week but only after you had passed a B4 Lorry Drivers Test, even if you did not pass the B4 test you were still sent to drive 6 Wheel Albions with a Jones KL66 Crane on the back, also 6 Wheel Thornycrofts with Coles Cranes the only difference was you did not get paid the extra Money.Then got Posted to an MT Section as a Lorry Driver,then the silly bit comes in , the MT Sargent if you did not have a driving licence and you Played Fooball or somekind of Sport or even if he just liked your Face he would take you round the Camp a few times and hey presto you a driving licence, one Guy was a Football Player and within a few days was Driving the biggest in the place which was a Bedford QL Troop Carrier.
Ben.
A lot has changed since 1955 Ben. My crane operators course was 4 weeks long with civilian CITB accredited instructors. That was in 1993 at the Royal Engineers training depot.
and it changed again when i done mine in 2006. 2 week course 2 weeks experience ( sit there and watch) then your screwed as no nvq lvl 2 and no experience so no one will give you a job
limeyphil:
The Army HGV training is done by a civilian company, But it is very basic compared to ours.
Most of the officers don’t even get in a lorry, They are simply signed off and given a licence. They are not expected to use it, They just need it, Otherwise how can they order someone to do something that they arn’t licenced to do themselves.
In times of war, The instruction is even more basic. You may be in a carda of 30 men, and only 5 will get to drive.
It was an instructor that told me this.
Do you have any first hand experiences of military training? Blatantly not with the goat ■■■■ your spouting! You been watching too much ultimate farce and soldier soldier and your mate big trucker or whatever he’s called you pair of screamers! I bet your the two drivers in the corner of an rdc too old fat and lazy to do anything to help new drivers just rather sit there and take the ■■■■
stevenmac08:
sorry mate no way in hell has the OC MT managed to get classes put on someone licence is just doesnt work like that. An officer doesnt have anything to do with testing, proof has to sent to the Master Driver of instruction ( Civilian or Military Cpl or up) and a pass certificate. No Master Driver will sign off on it unless it 100% correct it just doesn’t happen.
Sounds like he got lucky and DVLA have cocked it up then. Free class 1
He can’t reverse a Transit in a straight line, let alone an artic.
bigtruck:
As limeyphill says half of them don’t do the training,a couple of laps of the parade square and they’re signed off, given an hgv to help them return to civvy st but most of them have no notion or even interest in it. Add to the fact most can’t think for themselves after being told when to eat sleep and poop, their is an old saying " never a driver came out of the army".
Yea and both of you are talking out of your ar$e. With attitudes like that no wonder people no longer ask for help for fear of cbeing laughed at by people like you n phil
Obviously another ex squaddie, probably a very sensible confident hgv driver as well but that’s not what the army taught you, had you worked as a helper and then moved on to be a driver you would have had more knowledge at an earlier stage is merely what I’m trying to say. But as for whiping your bum with 3 sheets, saluting everything that moves and whitewashing everything that doesn’t I’m sure you were top of the class.
Whitewashing? Saluting everything? Signing off licenses? Not one of these apparent genuine facts has any proof! Whitewashing went out in the time of huckleberry Finn you only salute an officer and your licenses are done through DST you belter! I love civvies that claim to know everything!
I worked with a guy 2 years ago that had HGV license from the army as part of his resettlement after getting injured in an accident. he drove rigids but got asked to take an artic out one day, but could,nt reverse it, turned out he had done training through the army but had never reversed a trailer, other then a sankey? Now i thought this was crap so asked lad I know who is a civvy driver after doing full years in army and coming out but still drives for the MOD, and he says he knows quite a few ex forces lads with the similar training or severe lack of it…
bigtruck:
As limeyphill says half of them don’t do the training,a couple of laps of the parade square and they’re signed off, given an hgv to help them return to civvy st but most of them have no notion or even interest in it. Add to the fact most can’t think for themselves after being told when to eat sleep and poop, their is an old saying " never a driver came out of the army".
Yea and both of you are talking out of your ar$e. With attitudes like that no wonder people no longer ask for help for fear of cbeing laughed at by people like you n phil
Obviously another ex squaddie, probably a very sensible confident hgv driver as well but that’s not what the army taught you, had you worked as a helper and then moved on to be a driver you would have had more knowledge at an earlier stage is merely what I’m trying to say. But as for whiping your bum with 3 sheets, saluting everything that moves and whitewashing everything that doesn’t I’m sure you were top of the class.
Whitewashing? Saluting everything? Signing off licenses? Not one of these apparent genuine facts has any proof! Whitewashing went out in the time of huckleberry Finn you only salute an officer and your licenses are done through DST you belter! I love civvies that claim to know everything!
bigtruck:
As limeyphill says half of them don’t do the training,a couple of laps of the parade square and they’re signed off, given an hgv to help them return to civvy st but most of them have no notion or even interest in it. Add to the fact most can’t think for themselves after being told when to eat sleep and poop, their is an old saying " never a driver came out of the army".
Yea and both of you are talking out of your ar$e. With attitudes like that no wonder people no longer ask for help for fear of cbeing laughed at by people like you n phil
Obviously another ex squaddie, probably a very sensible confident hgv driver as well but that’s not what the army taught you, had you worked as a helper and then moved on to be a driver you would have had more knowledge at an earlier stage is merely what I’m trying to say. But as for whiping your bum with 3 sheets, saluting everything that moves and whitewashing everything that doesn’t I’m sure you were top of the class.
Whitewashing? Saluting everything? Signing off licenses? Not one of these apparent genuine facts has any proof! Whitewashing went out in the time of huckleberry Finn you only salute an officer and your licenses are done through DST you belter! I love civvies that claim to know everything!
and us civvies love you squadies that know it all
Has any squaddy on here confessed to knowing it all? However a fair few of your fellow civvies have confessed to knowing everything about military training when they actually haven’t experienced anything…
dle1uk:
I worked with a guy 2 years ago that had HGV license from the army as part of his resettlement after getting injured in an accident. he drove rigids but got asked to take an artic out one day, but could,nt reverse it, turned out he had done training through the army but had never reversed a trailer, other then a sankey? Now i thought this was crap so asked lad I know who is a civvy driver after doing full years in army and coming out but still drives for the MOD, and he says he knows quite a few ex forces lads with the similar training or severe lack of it…
Yet again a sankey? Never heard of it full years in army? Is that 1 year or 22? I know people who have been driving (non forces) for 30 years plus who can’t reverse an artic proves the square root of nothing really doesn’t it!
over all this thread has now turned into a slangiing match as to who is better civvie or army and tbh it doesn’t matter wherever we came from we all do the same job now there a re plenty of ■■■■ ups listed on here and they can’t have been all by ex military
mazzer:
over all this thread has now turned into a slangiing match as to who is better civvie or army and tbh it doesn’t matter wherever we came from we all do the same job now there a re plenty of ■■■■ ups listed on here and they can’t have been all by ex military
I do agree its gone to rat ■■■■ but some of these comments are belters!
