Conor:
I’ve seen plenty of halfwits who’ve been driving class 1 for some time do the same.
+1
limeyphil:
The Army HGV training is done by a civilian company, But it is very basic compared to ours.
Most of the officers don’t even get in a lorry, They are simply signed off and given a licence. They are not expected to use it, They just need it, Otherwise how can they order someone to do something that they arn’t licenced to do themselves.
In times of war, The instruction is even more basic. You may be in a carda of 30 men, and only 5 will get to drive.
It was an instructor that told me this.
■■■■■■■■ sorry, I have done both the military HGV training and Civvy street training & tests. DVLA put provisional entitlement back on my licence in 2007 instead of full entitlement when I sent it away to have my motorbike added, in fact the military training was more thorough in every way, and the test near identical save for some small detail changes like not having to do a through every gear pull away, I did things in the military with trucks in training most blokes will never experience in 30 years on Civvy street.
The guy was clearly a cretin and obviously not done the correct fam on those types of vehicle, regardless of whether he technically had a class one via rigid and drawbar he would have known from the start he had no clue and should have sought proper guidance rather than a ■■■■ poor excuse.
Sorry the more I read that the more bs it is.
You normally have 2 or 3 guys max sharing a truck with the instructor for the day, each taking turns to drive, and you ALL drive and are all individually assessed on progression and submittance to the test when ready regardless of how your mates are doing.
Seriously Phil I don’t know how you can believe half the crap your told.
What the ■■■■ is this post about?, I do not understand half of the replies to the original post, and most of the replies are in giberish, what is being said here?, does anyone know what they are posting? or is it just that I am more particular about the spelling so that I can understand what is being said,
Sapper
sapper:
What the [zb] is this post about?, I do not understand half of the replies to the original post, and most of the replies are in giberish, what is being said here?, does anyone know what they are posting? or is it just that I am more particular about the spelling so that I can understand what is being said,
Sapper
i think the problem could be that you’re drunk , we have regular carlzburg moments on here during the weekend and tonight it’s your turn … BURRRRRP … 
I did mine in the Army took me 50 hrs to do my class 3 week n half then for class one then all the other driver training thrown in was just over 6 weeks long how many civvy schools do that sort of service■■? The ASMT is a great place to learn to drive as that’s all you do there. Anyone thought that just MAYBE he mightve hooked up right but the jaws gave way?? It does happen
To be fair how many civilian driving schools use drawbars. So quite feed able a newbie could get a job on an artic without ever driving one.
As limeyphill says half of them don’t do the training,a couple of laps of the parade square and they’re signed off, given an hgv to help them return to civvy st but most of them have no notion or even interest in it. Add to the fact most can’t think for themselves after being told when to eat sleep and poop, their is an old saying " never a driver came out of the army".
bigtruck:
As limeyphill says half of them don’t do the training,a couple of laps of the parade square and they’re signed off, given an hgv to help them return to civvy st but most of them have no notion or even interest in it. Add to the fact most can’t think for themselves after being told when to eat sleep and poop, their is an old saying " never a driver came out of the army".
Yeah but plenty of marksman did, I’d duck if I was you!
dew:
bigtruck:
As limeyphill says half of them don’t do the training,a couple of laps of the parade square and they’re signed off, given an hgv to help them return to civvy st but most of them have no notion or even interest in it. Add to the fact most can’t think for themselves after being told when to eat sleep and poop, their is an old saying " never a driver came out of the army".Yeah but plenty of marksman did, I’d duck if I was you!
My point exactly but they were never drivers!
Sorry, if he hadn’t been shown how to couple up before, common sense would dictate that he ask to be shown how to do it before attempting it himself. Driver to blame in my opinion. After I passed my test in a wagon & drag, I went out with an experienced truck driver for a few days with me driving for free & him sitting in the passenger seat watching what I was doing. Common sense.
What a load of crap some of you spout on here I got my c+e in the army by civilian instructors and it certainly wasn’t a few laps round the parade square. It was driving all round the hull area and the only downside is it was in a wag and drag but it’s never held me back in civvy street I’ve had some great jobs with top companies. I see experienced drivers ■■■■ up all the time that wasnt in the army it just depends on the individual so some of you should get your facts straight before you post
Just because some of you claim to have gained top rate HGV training in the Army.
It dosn’t mean they all got it, The majority didn’t and probably still don’t.
limeyphil:
Just because some of you claim to have gained top rate HGV training in the Army.
It dosn’t mean they all got it, The majority didn’t and probably still don’t.
I bet they all get the best training out there the only problem is some just dont have common sence same as civvis but it comes down to people being jelous as the lads and lasses not having to pay for it.
if you look at the type of driving we do in say afgan if you do have a tractor and trailor you very realy unhitch.
If you were a civvy LGV driver and went into the forces you would get the extra training required to do that job
If a forces LGV driver going into civvy driving then what extra training do the companies give to do that job ?
How can a forces LGV driver be blasted for not being properly trained for civvy street when there is not a system for doing so !!
I don’t see the relevance of this driver having been in the army.I’ve seen plenty drivers dropping trailers on their knees who have never been near the forces. Regardless of where he took his test he would have had to complete the coupling/uncoupling part. Surely he would have been given an assessment by whoever he was driving for, everyone else does one. And how long had he been driving? two years experience anyone. If any employer these days Is dumb enough to send out people without checking their level of experiece then they deserve all they get.
Contrary to popular belief you do a normal full test in the forces, it’s a common myth to say its a little drive around the parade ground. I did mine in a full C&E unit and trailer around Newcastle, 90 mins worth.
Driver LGV training (with very few exceptions) in the forces has been done by civilian contractors since at least the late 80’s. A lot of troops (myself included) do C+E as a resettlement course which is run by a totally civilian company, the same companies that civilians are using.
I did mine with Cross group in Burton on Trent 13 years ago, the vehicle was…yep…an uprated 7.5t with a drawbar trailer. I then went to do some freebie work experience at Hays logistics at Dove Valley and went straight onto artics when I had never used a 5th wheel in my life.
When I did my HGV 3 in the army back in 1989, it was with civilian company “serco”. When we passed it was then up to ASMT Leconfield for a 2 week course that covered all aspects of load security, cross country driving, skid pan etc etc. You don’t get any of that in civvy street.
As Limeyphil says, there are some that got entitlement after a quick assessment drive up the road and back, however that is for operational reasons such as the 1st Gulf war when it happened quite a bit, the permit was only for use “in theatre” i.e. in the gulf. All entitlements were then removed after the operation at my unit.
dodgy typing finger … 
WTF ?
Wouldn’t be surprised if he missed the pin tbh.
There seems to be an “army” of retards out there dropping loaded and unloaded trailers too high.
So high in fact you just about get under them and the legs are still welded to the floor.
Idiots.
paul@midway:
Wouldn’t be surprised if he missed the pin tbh.
There seems to be an “army” of retards out there dropping loaded and unloaded trailers too high.
So high in fact you just about get under them and the legs are still welded to the floor.
Idiots.
Yep, we have a few of them on our firm also!