osark:
What essential worker even means? Just another BS term from a time where every breathing human being was considered a biohazard.
My kids dont eat if I dont put meat on the table, so to them I guess I am an essential worker…
If we don’t go to work you deal with this, we have no say who is on the essential workers list but as i said above if the government say there is a shortage of fuel we like the emergency services get our fuel first.-
the maoster:
I have a cunning plan Baldrick. How do you prove that you’re an essential worker? Do you don your natty nurses uniform or do you turn up in Eddie gear complete with dirty hi vis? My plan is to buy all of Eagerbeaver’s old uniforms as a job lot for £50 and then punt them all out on flea bay at a ridiculous profit!This time next year Rodney……
Fifty rips won’t do it Brother.
Some helmet gave me £40 on the bay of e for a green/black shell jacket alone. Word on the street has it that more uniform will be coming soon for the festive season folks… 
telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/0 … fications/
Majority of NHS staff dont even hold a medical qualification lol. Media keeps saying it is world leading best service ever. I personally think it is a extremely poorly run organization that barely provides a service and bleeds money.
It needs someone to fix it from the core.
As for me being an essential worker… Does a Tesco HGV driver count?
I’d just sooner place a blanket rule that any HGV driver is classed as an essential worker though.
Taxi drivers should get special treatment as well.
But if the government start introducing special access to petrol stations then even more panic buying will ensue.
In my area I have seen people queue up for over half an hour to put less than £3 of petrol in their car. It is frankly stupid.
Juddian:
Bin Man:
Juddian:
More divide and rule ■■■■■■■■.
High time we stopped playing into the govts, and their owners, hands.If the garage owner wants to allow essential services priority for the first hour that’s his decision if you don’t like it tough [zb] and as its unlikely to be a garage near you i wouldn’t worry your little head about it.
hit a nerve did i, diddums.
I think he needs a pair of your shoes…
lad by me me has a blue light card,he doesnt even work or drive so not bothered about fuel. he bought it on ebay,has a few others diabilty exempt that sort of thing i know he uses that one
sometimes think hes got a good idea compared to us workers,he runs an etsy shop spose that is work of sorts picking old slippers out of a bin and framing them
Franglais:
I hear shares in Tesla are on the up…
No. My electricity supplier has just gone bust.
corij:
lad by me me has a blue light card,he doesnt even work or drive so not bothered about fuel. he bought it on ebay,has a few others diabilty exempt that sort of thing i know he uses that one
sometimes think hes got a good idea compared to us workers,he runs an etsy shop spose that is work of sorts picking old slippers out of a bin and framing them
Has he got any vaccine passports? Could be interested.
Janos:
As an HGV driver, in your car, would you forego your turn at the petrol/diesel pump or go without for an NHS worker?
The vast majority of NHS staff are not involved in patient care and they wouldn’t be missed if they were AWOL for a few weeks.
Bin Man:
the maoster:
I have a cunning plan Baldrick. How do you prove that you’re an essential worker? Do you don your natty nurses uniform or do you turn up in Eddie gear complete with dirty hi vis? My plan is to buy all of Eagerbeaver’s old uniforms as a job lot for £50 and then punt them all out on flea bay at a ridiculous profit!
This time next year Rodney……Well the NHS workers have had these for many months, my clock card has a picture of me and the council details on it, as for everyone else i haven’t a clue i dont own the garage!
That’s not strictly true. The blue light card is something you apply for. It costs £5 every few years and in theory, gets you discount at various retail outlets that have agreed to support the scheme. You do not have to be an NHS employee to get one. All NHS staff hold a picture ID with their profession on it…mine shows my stunningly handsome fizog and the title PARAMEDIC.
Speaking of that, there are a significant amount of PAS’s (Private Ambulance Services) who work front line as contractors alongside the NHS. Without them, ambo services would be even more overwhelmed. Those staff who are as good as any NHS clinician, are absolutely essential to the NHS ambo services, yet they won’t hold a NHS ID card.
Unfortunately, there is no absolutes in this problem and people have just got to engage a bit of common sense…but as we all no, that’ll never ever happen…we’re doomed.
Incidentally, the blue light card is administered by the same organisation that also administers the DDS (Defence Discount Card). If you’re ex military you can apply for a DDS and get the same discounts as blue light card holders.
the maoster:
My plan is to buy all of Eagerbeaver’s old uniforms as a job lot for £50 and then punt them all out on flea bay at a ridiculous profit!This time next year Rodney……
Asking for a friend…Does he have spare pink tutu?
stu675:
Franglais:
I hear shares in Tesla are on the up…No. My electricity supplier has just gone bust.
Your electricity “middleman” may well have gone bust.
I don’t think any electricity producers are likely to worry too much.
Bin Man:
osark:
What essential worker even means? Just another BS term from a time where every breathing human being was considered a biohazard.
My kids dont eat if I dont put meat on the table, so to them I guess I am an essential worker…If we don’t go to work you deal with this, we have no say who is on the essential workers list but as i said above if the government say there is a shortage of fuel we like the emergency services get our fuel first.-
Trust me fella you are not providing a life or death service, the carriers on the back of the vehicle are more pivotal.
Your council could do what ours done staff where unable to get to work, pick them up. Our council had fuel tanks in the yards and simply got a member of staff who was on to go around and collect workers and drop them off. It wasn’t ideal but it worked a treat.
You won’t be jumping the queue waving a council clocking in card thinking your James bond on a mission
Staright:
The vast majority of NHS staff are not involved in patient care and they wouldn’t be missed if they were AWOL for a few weeks.
Mmm, so which would we send home? The porter isn’t a doctor, but how do we get from the ward to the Op theatre? Yep, send the receptionist home, now I can’t arrange my next appointment, send home the office waller- thats good only the Dr now doesn’t have my records to know what is wrong with me and what’s already been done.
Understand the sentiment, but which can be cherry picked as as being not required? Probably not many, even in the short term.
Trust me fella you are not providing a life or death service, the carriers on the back of the vehicle are more pivotal.
Can you show me where i said that i provide a life or death service. (that’ll be a no)
I said i guess we would be classed as an essential service bourn out by the fact when the government makes a fuel shortage official we use the same emergency supply at the garage that the police use. (in the wagons not out cars)
You won’t be jumping the queue waving a council clocking in card thinking your James bond on a mission
I didn’t say i would if you read what i actually said below and note the (I GUESS) also highlighted in the quote above.
Joking aside i heard a garage owner on 5 live drive earlier saying if the queuing doesn’t stop he is bringing security in first thing Thursday morning and for the first hour only those who are essential workers are allowed to buy fuel.
I guess we wold be classed as essential workers if that was the case in our local filling stations.
As i also said this garage is nowhere near me so i wouldn’t be flashing my card at the forecourt staff mentioned in the news article so its a bit of a pointless argument and the fuel if flowing freely here now so no more panic buying, happy days.
Mcdonalds workers should be first to fill up fuel, they feed the country and are key
TruckDriverBen:
Mcdonalds workers should be first to fill up fuel, they feed the country and are key
As long as Greggs workers get priority over NHS and McDonalds workers I am happy.
adam277:
TruckDriverBen:
Mcdonalds workers should be first to fill up fuel, they feed the country and are keyAs long as Greggs workers get priority over NHS and McDonalds workers I am happy.
I would vote for Greggs first McD’s second.
adam277:
Nearly half of all NHS staff have no medical qualificationsMajority of NHS staff dont even hold a medical qualification lol. Media keeps saying it is world leading best service ever. I personally think it is a extremely poorly run organization that barely provides a service and bleeds money.
It needs someone to fix it from the core.As for me being an essential worker… Does a Tesco HGV driver count?
I’d just sooner place a blanket rule that any HGV driver is classed as an essential worker though.
Taxi drivers should get special treatment as well.But if the government start introducing special access to petrol stations then even more panic buying will ensue.
In my area I have seen people queue up for over half an hour to put less than £3 of petrol in their car. It is frankly stupid.
If a firm suddenly pays you top dollar, AND treats you better - then at least at that particular outfit - you are “currently valued” Yes?
Supermarkets - seem to have already jump-bid the hourly rates available on agency, BUT for overall terms and conditions to imrpove dramatically - we’d need to be offered “Wear-the-shirt” full time FRIENDLY contracts at the sorts of rates agency are already and now paying… 
Eg. Sainsbury’s Job might look like this:
Work Four-on-Four-off Shift choices either 6am-6pm or 6pm to 6am. NO changing shifts, fixed and permanent days OR nights. NOT both/rotate.
The 4on4off system will mean that over weeks - you’ll gradually work some weekends, but you’ll know and be able to plan around them in advance.
The hourly rate for all hours with all shift allowances, etc. consolidated into full timer’s pay - is £20ph, so you don’t need any longer to duck and dive 17:00 starts because you end up on a “right through day rate” for instance…
Of course, if firms were prepared to pay full-blown night rates for shifts starting at the current 14:00 and 02:00 - there wouldn’t be any need for such “ducking and diving” - would there?
It is very hard indeed to get the “Maximum Agency Rates” because of sheer lack of availability of the PREMIUM shift patterns that attract the top dollar rates - BUT in practice only get handed out to those lucky few high enough up in the pecking order…
Being able to plan your home life weeks, months, and years in advance - means less stress, and a better quality of life.
It does NOT improve a firm’s profits to have people on health-damaging shift-changes all the time, nor 5 & 6 day working weeks with shorter shifts so commute traffic and thereby the Carbon Footprint is increased - the current attendence model at supermarkets.
As for the Pay itself - Agency are already paying north of £20ph in supermarkets, so why quibble about offering wear-the-shirt contracts out at £20ph■■?
Janos:
As an HGV driver, in your car, would you forego your turn at the petrol/diesel pump or go without for an NHS worker?
NOT A CHANCE
Bin Man:
osark:
What essential worker even means? Just another BS term from a time where every breathing human being was considered a biohazard.
My kids dont eat if I dont put meat on the table, so to them I guess I am an essential worker…If we don’t go to work you deal with this, we have no say who is on the essential workers list but as i said above if the government say there is a shortage of fuel we like the emergency services get our fuel first.-
That picture is Birmingham and was during the Bin strikes a few years ago.
Council workers striking? Thats a 1st not 
