I did my apprenticeship at a garage in the village I grew up in. 60 quid a week in wages plus a fiver every two weeks in petrol for my motorbike. He let me do the late shift on the petrol forecourt for the same money as he paid the day girl (6.50 an hour)
He bought me my first car and allowed me to pay him weekly out of my wages (20 quid a week) all parts at trade and if I wanted to repair it as long as customers got served on the forecourt I could use the workshop for my own and my mates work.
I got the same cash as a apprentice.its not easy but and the end you have a trade.mike is right,you start off knowing nothing so why should you be paid the same as others.infact your slowing down the guys with them teaching you.i hate to come accross snide but if your lad dont want it theres plenty out there with the insight to grab it with both hands
nearly there:
I got the same cash as a apprentice.its not easy but and the end you have a trade.mike is right,you start off knowing nothing so why should you be paid the same as others.infact your slowing down the guys with them teaching you.i hate to come accross snide but if your lad dont want it theres plenty out there with the insight to grab it with both hands
No No he wants it I was just saying its a no wonder kids don’t go into industry when they can get more money doing other stuff.
I know when he’s qualified he’ll be able to work on almost anything and they’ll put him through his Class C etc.
He’ll do refrigeration too.
I think he’ll also keep his part time cinema job going if he can for the odd weekends too.
Maybe your son should be trying to make clear how much he really, really wants this, bones up on some technical and finds out about the make and models of vehicles the employer maintains. Is this a main dealer? Then armed with some limited knowledge of what he is getting into, having demonstrated his keenness and perhaps some relevant schoolwork, he could ask a few questions to prove his interest. It will be true evidence of this which will secure the job.
Modern vehicles increasingly require IT skills, but particularly electrical skills ( a revision of Ohm’s Law might prove worthwhile), but the opinion is becoming more common that some of the old skills are being lost. So perhaps find out if he will receive, or can opt to receive, proper training in the use of the lathe, metal fabrication, oxy- acetylene welding, arc and mig welding to coded level etc. These are all skills previously expected of a commercial fitter. The refrigeration training mentioned is a real bonus, as is the cat C, and particularly the MOT tester’s certificate, but there can be more specialist training to follow eg tachograph/speed limiter, hydraulic installation etc. He might ask about years two and three onwards and about manufacturer’s courses he would be sent on. He is already being offered a very good package, but proof of his awareness of just how much further he can go will be to his benefit.
Having put this forward, then perhaps comes the opportunity to ask about whether the employer runs a tool club, and perhaps whether they might contribute even a small amount to the cost of a season ticket for public transport.
This is the way it is down here. Every company is taking on ‘apprentices’, this means they can employ people at a fraction of the cost.
There is a great number of HGV apprenticeships available at £107pw.
At age 18, you can enrol and sign into a contract where the company MAY put you through your C1, depending upon performance. In the mean time, you are to work 48 hours a week delivering all over in a transit.
Chew on that Jonny Foreigner, we can now employ Brits for less than you!
nick2008:
Might not be the right place so if not pls feel free to move it …
My lads got an interview this week for an Apprentice HGV Technichian
just found out if he gets the job his pay will be a WHOPPING £ 107.20 a week for a 40hr week
half of that will be used up in getting to and from work
No wonder some kids of today don’t wanna go into industry.
I did that 3,5 Year.
First 6 Month Ats 50.- / Week Monday to Friday 8 Hour/Day and saturday 08.00 to 12.00
Then a Year Ats 75.- Week
ect,ect
Ha,Ha,…
Had a Rearlight out and Company doesn’t allow to change Bulp. Not qualified enough if not trained indoor
But,let him do it. Im 43 Year in Transport,and Life is much more easy de more you know.As he has a Dad who earns Great Money,he will sponsor a few extra Pounds to his Pay.
It’s like being penalised for wanting to take yourself to the next level. Baby boomers got it good the days of being unskilled, turning up at a building site or garage and securing that job (and their future) that very morning without the paperwork or HSE rubbish that are BIG expensive barriers to entry for most trades these days.
I have been in companies where they have taken on apprentices at similar wages, gained a grant for new tooling from Gov, then billed out the apprentices labour at full cost to clients - Then at the end of the year let this person down with their apprenticeship and show them the door, all for it to happen again to another first year apprentice.
The whole system is a bureaucratic scam.
Stay at home kids, play on the xbox - there’s no incentive.
Good to read a dad is providing proper fatherly support. That in itself is invaluable.
Batmann:
It’s like being penalised for wanting to take yourself to the next level. Baby boomers got it good the days of being unskilled, turning up at a building site or garage and securing that job (and their future) that very morning without the paperwork or HSE rubbish that are BIG expensive barriers to entry for most trades these days.
I have been in companies where they have taken on apprentices at similar wages, gained a grant for new tooling from Gov, then billed out the apprentices labour at full cost to clients - Then at the end of the year let this person down with their apprenticeship and show them the door, all for it to happen again to another first year apprentice.
The whole system is a bureaucratic scam.
Stay at home kids, play on the xbox - there’s no incentive.
Good to read a dad is providing proper fatherly support. That in itself is invaluable.
He didn’t get it …
Scania want you to be almost a rocket scientist as do merc.
I think he’s gonna just keep looking, he’s earning ok money at the cinema, it don’t cost hardly anything to get there (2 miles) and he has most of the week to himself. and still pays his house keep and has money left for the pub and all the other s.tuff he does
Aye ,started as apprentice diesel mechanic in 76 iirc 15quid a week,living at home ,picked up if i was lucky in the morning by a passing motor or wait on a bus (lived in the country).
Did a year and then had the chance to work in the woods on piece work running a tractor dragging out timber ,was earning more money than my dad on the farm.
The thing was i was happy learning but the lack o money was killing me when your mates were out drinking and chasing birds and i couldnt aford the bloody bus fare.
looking back …aye i should have stuck in BUT i reccon i still would have ended up driving.
jimmy
Dont agree at all for doing a beter paid Jo.
In old Time it was “Its not Importand what you know but ho you know”
Not anymore,as too many Students feighting for Work and de less you know de more Power to the one with good School and/or a Profession.
Its just Pennies now,but it comes slowly with extra Work,and later,after every passed Exam the Money goes up.
Its not urgent to have too much Money as Teen,as also some Girls in same situation.But with 20 he will be a Professional who builds you a Lorry,could work in any Major Manifacturers Workshop or does further Exames.
I did a five year apprenticeship at a Commercial Vehicle dealership, I started at age 15 1/2 in 1966 and my wage was £4, 2s, 6d a week. This went up by £1 per annum so when I finished at 21 (1971) I was earning around £10 per week. The company trained me, sent me to college etc, and then after a few more years and now on 50 pence an hour I left for a (I wrongly thought! ) better job at another garage for 90 pence an hour! So for all that money they podded out on me they didn’t get much in return, and that happened a lot back then, some of my fellow apprentices went into the building trade as they were getting married (like me) and needed cash quickly which was never going to happen as a mechanic. I continued fitting for another 9 years and then went driving trucks for the same quarrying company, and my wages virtually doubled overnight! Easier work as well, driving I went home reasonably fresh instead of totally knackered after a day dragging gearboxes etc around.
Never regretted my Apprenticeship though, it gave me a trade if things ever went ‘belly up’ and I still do some today to keep my hand in. Bad for the companies who pay to educate a youngster and then they jack it in, I still feel guilty about that, though at the time I didn’t realise that I was letting them down.
No kids want to work for 107 quid a week and I dont blame them.
But on the bright side because nobody wants to work for bugger all
Nobody wants to do the job( I mean the “real job”) not some ■■■■■■■■ main agent toe rag.
Go into some scania ,volvo ,merc agent and ask them to repair a trailer,they look at you as though your a bloody alien.
and thats why old monkeys like me can earn a grand a week for 45 hours.
Another question how the hell is some some young lad expected to buy even a basic tool kit on a 107 quid a week? Went to buy a stahlwille 36 mm open/ring last week(the old one gave up the ghost after 22 years) and I was looking at a 35 quid bill.
And they tell me “young people” dont want to work?
Give them a bloody chance.An eletricians,plumbers,carpenters tool kit can be carried around in a bloody hold all,try carrying round a set of tools to service a truck in a bloody hand bag!!!
To even pull a rear hub your talking at least 500 quid.
Bking:
Another question how the hell is some some young lad expected to buy even a basic tool kit on a 107 quid a week? Went to buy a stahlwille 36 mm open/ring last week(the old one gave up the ghost after 22 years) and I was looking at a 35 quid bill.
And they tell me “young people” dont want to work?
Give them a bloody chance.An eletricians,plumbers,carpenters tool kit can be carried around in a bloody hold all,try carrying round a set of tools to service a truck in a bloody hand bag!!!
To even pull a rear hub your talking at least 500 quid.
my Nephew works for Vaux main dealership his tool box has grown over the years mainly at Christmas and birthdays he’s recycled an old laptop to use for diagnostics made stuff from scratch to keep costs down etc abd your right he couldn’t even get it all in the boot of his car let a loan in a bag
I wish I had bought all Stahlwille tools then I might stand a chance of being able to pick up some of my toolboxes. Best deal I’ve ever had? 2nd hand set of Britool 1" drive Whitworth sockets 7/8" to 2 1/2" ( I think) for £20 off Ebay. Used regularly.
Bking:
Another question how the hell is some some young lad expected to buy even a basic tool kit on a 107 quid a week? Went to buy a stahlwille 36 mm open/ring last week(the old one gave up the ghost after 22 years) and I was looking at a 35 quid bill.
And they tell me “young people” dont want to work?
Give them a bloody chance.An eletricians,plumbers,carpenters tool kit can be carried around in a bloody hold all,try carrying round a set of tools to service a truck in a bloody hand bag!!!
To even pull a rear hub your talking at least 500 quid.
Had to start buying mine on £4 a week! As an apprentice I just used the tools of the guy I was apprenticed to so didn’t need my own for a year or two as I wasn’t allowed to do much until then, just watch and learn! Anything over 1/2" whitworth the company paid for though, still got a lot of mine from 48 years ago which is handy as I restore Vintage machinery for a hobby. A different game nowadays though, apprentice’s are probably just seen as cheap labour and garages possibly still charge the customer the full rate regardless?
25 years ago my apprenticeship was done ya YTS which was 29.50 per week for 40hrs, out of that my mum took £20 out for keep, £6 for bus fare, leaving me the grand old total of £3.50…
If it wasn’t for my boss paying for a bus pass and lettering me do out of hrs call out and overtime then I’d have been totally screwed…
Most weeks after that I averaged between 7 - 9 times more money than YTS paid… but hell you did work for it
when your mates were out drinking and chasing birds and i couldnt aford the bloody bus fare.
) better job at another garage for 90 pence an hour! 
Easier work as well, driving I went home reasonably fresh instead of totally knackered after a day dragging gearboxes etc around.
