Carryfast:
Like 4.47 yards you mean .That’s progress.
So your idea of progress is to bring in a decimal system of measurement.
You know there is already a decimal system used by much of the World and that most of us have been educated in?
No.I was using sarcasm and irony to show what would happen if the imperial system was as bad the metric system in only being based on one reference unit.IE in this case the yard. .As I said the imperial system is superior because unlike metric it provides numerous different measurement references for different applications which can also be decimalised anyway.
Radar19:
Is CF actually trying to defend Imperial measurements?
Brexit means Brexit. Including a return to farthings, half crowns, ha’penny and shillings…
Considering that a bob looks like a tanner and is worth a lot less than that decimalising the currency worked well and who needs half pennies.More like decimation not decimalisation.
merc0447:
Maybe im still asleep but that bridge is 13’0 (3.96) and the lorry is standard euro spec 13’1 (4.00)
So what the [zb] are you lot talking about blaming councils etc? The lorry is too high by an inch.
Bridge is 4.1m truck is 4.0m. 10cm spare, crack on. Bang. Oops.
Council has the wrong sign up, can’t blame the driver especially a European one. He approaches a bridge in a 4.0m truck, sees a sign stating 4.1m and some weird number in feet, why would he even convert the height in feet there is no need, the height in metric is clearly displayed.
Look at it from a different perspective, your truck’s height is given in feet and inches, do you convert every bridge height you approach that has both heights given and convert the one in metres to feet and inches and pick the lowest one? Of course not, you go by the height in feet and inches so why shouldn’t this European driver do the same when the height is clearly marked in metres?
Bridge heights aren’t a guessing game where you pick the lowest height given having to convert one unit of measurement into another. Some pillock put the wrong sign up. End of.
Why do you need to convert anything when if you’re driving a truck here you should ‘know’ it’s height in feet and inches before you set off.In which case yes if the sign is wrong in both metres ‘and’ feet and inches then you’d have a case.The council are mugs who should have defended the case on those grounds.
merc0447:
Maybe im still asleep but that bridge is 13’0 (3.96) and the lorry is standard euro spec 13’1 (4.00)
So what the [zb] are you lot talking about blaming councils etc? The lorry is too high by an inch.
Bridge is 4.1m truck is 4.0m. 10cm spare, crack on. Bang. Oops.
Council has the wrong sign up, can’t blame the driver especially a European one. He approaches a bridge in a 4.0m truck, sees a sign stating 4.1m and some weird number in feet, why would he even convert the height in feet there is no need, the height in metric is clearly displayed.
Look at it from a different perspective, your truck’s height is given in feet and inches, do you convert every bridge height you approach that has both heights given and convert the one in metres to feet and inches and pick the lowest one? Of course not, you go by the height in feet and inches so why shouldn’t this European driver do the same when the height is clearly marked in metres?
Bridge heights aren’t a guessing game where you pick the lowest height given having to convert one unit of measurement into another. Some pillock put the wrong sign up. End of.
Why do you need to convert anything when if you’re driving a truck here you should ‘know’ it’s height in feet and inches before you set off.In which case yes if the sign is wrong in both metres ‘and’ feet and inches then you’d have a case.The council are mugs who should have defended the case on those grounds.
Dude, take your meds, this is the professional drivers forum, Allegro drivers with a straw hat on the parcel shelf belong in Billy’s
Dolph:
Its council fault, pure and simple.
Europe maximum measurements are as follows: Height - 4,00m, width - 2,55m, length - 18,75m, from my Bulgarian C class book, this is valid for the whole Continent,
There’s a flaw in your plan in that this isn’t part of the ‘whole continent’.Something to do with beating Napoleon and Hitler.Like US ones UK bridges are first and foremost measured in feet and inches just like we drive on the left and measure distance in miles.
Lost count of the times that bridge has been hit, and it’s on my local authority patch. Last one was a foreign motor too. I don’t want to get involved with the metric / imperial argument here, that bridge on the A5104 IS deceiving with the A550 only mts/yds the other side. Not the first and definitely not the last.
One in Mid Wales. For years it was marked up as 14’0. I was following a 4 wheeler car transporter between Builth Wells and Newbridge on Wye. I tried to warn the driver flashing the lights so I eased back, hazards on taking it steady.
Sure enough, an ■■■■■■ van ( I think ) got a few stripes down it’s roof
No matter. That section of winding road is now by-passed. Good news for those doing the logs and those on saw mill residue… The green & white brigade walking floor trailers… Forgotten the name of that outfit
wheelnutt:
Dude, take your meds, this is the professional drivers forum, Allegro drivers with a straw hat on the parcel shelf belong in Billy’s
On you go.
Unlike you,at least I’d have been ‘professional’ enough to have not hit a Brit bridge.Because I’d have known how high the truck was in feet and inches before I left the yard whether the yard was here or on the other side of the Channel.
Dolph:
Its council fault, pure and simple.
Europe maximum measurements are as follows: Height - 4,00m, width - 2,55m, length - 18,75m, from my Bulgarian C class book, this is valid for the whole Continent,
There’s a flaw in your plan in that this isn’t part of the ‘whole continent’.Something to do with beating Napoleon and Hitler.Like US ones UK bridges are first and foremost measured in feet and inches just like we drive on the left and measure distance in miles.
Bloody hell, have we gone through a time-warp back to 1950?
Carryfast:
There’s a flaw in your plan in that this isn’t part of the ‘whole continent’.Something to do with beating Napoleon and Hitler.Like US ones UK bridges are first and foremost measured in feet and inches just like we drive on the left and measure distance in miles.
Bloody hell, have we gone through a time-warp back to 1950?
Blimey you mean we don’t use miles we use kilometres and we drive on the right and we measure bridges in metres since 1950.
Carryfast:
There’s a flaw in your plan in that this isn’t part of the ‘whole continent’.Something to do with beating Napoleon and Hitler.Like US ones UK bridges are first and foremost measured in feet and inches just like we drive on the left and measure distance in miles.
Bloody hell, have we gone through a time-warp back to 1950?
Blimey you mean we don’t use miles we use kilometres and we drive on the right and we measure bridges in metres since 1950.
Dude, the sign was in metres, the sign is wrong. End of.
Dolph:
Its council fault, pure and simple.
Europe maximum measurements are as follows: Height - 4,00m, width - 2,55m, length - 18,75m, from my Bulgarian C class book, this is valid for the whole Continent,
There’s a flaw in your plan in that this isn’t part of the ‘whole continent’.Something to do with beating Napoleon and Hitler.Like US ones UK bridges are first and foremost measured in feet and inches just like we drive on the left and measure distance in miles.
Bloody hell, have we gone through a time-warp back to 1950?
Only in Carryfast World, not only does he still have a grudge about the Germans, maybe a Doodle Bug hit his outside lavvy, He still has a grudge with the French, for the Napoleonic wars, probably thinks an episode of Sharpe is a front line news report. I wonder if he has a powdered wig.
Carryfast:
There’s a flaw in your plan in that this isn’t part of the ‘whole continent’.Something to do with beating Napoleon and Hitler.Like US ones UK bridges are first and foremost measured in feet and inches just like we drive on the left and measure distance in miles.
Bloody hell, have we gone through a time-warp back to 1950?
Blimey you mean we don’t use miles we use kilometres and we drive on the right and we measure bridges in metres since 1950.
Dude, the sign was in metres, the sign is wrong. End of.
The sign said 13 feet.All the courts need to know and the driver reasonably needed to know before he set off,is the truck less than 13 feet high yes or no.
muckles:
Only in Carryfast World, not only does he still have a grudge about the Germans, maybe a Doodle Bug hit his outside lavvy, He still has a grudge with the French, for the Napoleonic wars, probably thinks an episode of Sharpe is a front line news report. I wonder if he has a powdered wig.
No just the precedent that it’s reasonable to expect any driver driving here to know the height of their vehicle in feet and inches.
Carryfast:
Unlike you,at least I’d have been ‘professional’ enough to have not hit a Brit bridge.Because I’d have known how high the truck was in feet and inches before I left the yard whether the yard was here or on the other side of the Channel.
There are not many council trucks that are too high, most are well under 13 feet or 3 metre, 9 decimetre, 6 centimetre and 2 millimetres (for the more educated ones )
Carryfast:
driver reasonably needed to know before he set off,is the truck less than 13 feet high yes or no.
He doesn’t need to know, the council put a sign up just for him in metres showing that he had 10cm clearance. No need to convert the feet and inches part of the sign, the council did it for him.
Of course we nor he can help that the council is as thick as you and put the wrong sign up but that is not the drivers fault.
Yes this will stand up in court dude.
Now go take your meds and shoot of back to Billy’s
Carryfast:
Like 4.47 yards you mean .That’s progress.
So your idea of progress is to bring in a decimal system of measurement.
You know there is already a decimal system used by much of the World and that most of us have been educated in?
No.I was using sarcasm and irony to show what would happen if the imperial system was as bad the metric system in only being based on one reference unit.IE in this case the yard. .As I said the imperial system is superior because unlike metric it provides numerous different measurement references for different applications which can also be decimalised anyway.
You’re really not good at Sarcasm, stick to being completely intransigent, you’re really good at that.
Cosmic:
People do struggle with the unforgiving nature of a bridge strike, but the logic is absolute. If you drive under a static object and your vehicle doesn’t fit, it’s your fault. No argument. If you have to quibble over 3 centimetres of potential error, you are overheight. Simple. Why try to second-guess it? Go another way. And if you really do think it’s marginal, you can always stop short of the bridge, assess the situation, or proceed with extreme care. But, as the pictures show, these drivers sailed under this bridge without a care in the world, until brought to an abrupt halt. Bridge strikes are caused by inattention, always.
I burst out laughing when I read this When a bridge is marked as 4.1 metres it is advising all drivers that this is the highest vehicle that can pass underneath it (well in the UK anyway). It does not advise the actual height of the bridge! Planners will measure the bridge and decide what is the safest heigh vehicle that can travel underneath it and then sign as such. I feel sorry for the driver in this instance as I have taken many a 4m trailer under a 4m bridge - why on earth wouldn’t you?
caledoniandream:
There are not many council trucks that are too high, most are well under 13 feet or 3 metre, 9 decimetre, 6 centimetre and 2 millimetres (for the more educated ones )
Not when the council truck in question is a multi lift flat with a Muir Hill sitting on the deck. While your figures don’t exactly make the case for the metric system as I said being a one trick pony of the metre/litre/gramme.
.That’s progress.
.As I said the imperial system is superior because unlike metric it provides numerous different measurement references for different applications which can also be decimalised anyway.
