switchlogic:
You’d be hard pressed to find metric tyres
you couldn’t find a dafter measurement, width is in ‘mm’ rim size in inches.
AndrewG:
Bluey Circles:
And there was a mad time (80s ?) when you could have machines, vehicles, trailers with a mad mix of both imperial and metric fastenings. You had to be very careful on choosing sockets and spanners, put a 13mm on a 1/2 inch or a 19mm on a 3/4 and you would round it.But getting back to heights, how do you all measure your height, do you hold a pole up to the corner closest to the drivers door and take that as accurate or do you measure all four corners of the trailer and use the highest. If you have measured it at full weight do you check again empty (could be significant differences when we were riding on steel, not so much now) And what do you use for measuring, a proper telescopic pole with angled top of just any leghth of wood then measure it with a spool measure ?
Ive only measured once but know a 4m marked tilt will be down to 3.9 m empty on my fifth wheel (set very low) and around 3.8m fully freighted. The air deflector on its lowest setting clears the trailers. if youre driving the same truck its always going to be the same.
I did hay many years ago, used to lay a plank over the top and measure each side then take the highest. Bit pointless really, by the time it was tightened back down every 20 mile could be a foot lower by the time I got into galloway, by which time you could no longer see out the mirrors - stupidist load on the planet.
stevieboy308:
But once again for a bridge to be marked 13’ then minimum it can measure is 13’3" which is 4.0386m thank you please
Let’s get this right you want to make up your own rules by ignoring the marked height on bridges and using a margin which may or may not exist,or may exist to a greater or lesser amount,because of numerous variables.Good luck with that.
While the law states that you have to go by the ‘marked’ height indicated in the cab and on the bridge,obviously in imperial not metric.Any deviation from that regarding international operations being a stupid loophole in the law which needs to be sorted.
switchlogic:
dieseldog999:
plus being the british goverment that is totally incompetent in most aspects,then theres always the chance that some coffin dodger victor meldrew type cant or wont relate to metric for certain things.which is why we buy milk in litres,tyres, and mostly everything else in metric…apart from the fact ant anyone else in eirope will be familier with metric and see that displayed before anything else,hence the [zb] that measured the bridge clearance for the sign to be made was a fanny.You’d be hard pressed to find metric tyres
Not to mention that the milkman still delivers milk in pints and I’ve also got a carton in the fridge bought today from Sainsburys marked 1 Pint.Not 1 litre or 500 ml but 1 Pint.Just like the pint of beer I buy in the pub and road signs marked in miles or yards and speeds here measured in mph not kmh.While the sign for the bridge was clearly marked 13 feet which should by law be referenced against the imperial height indicator in the cab.Or at least a driver who knows the height of a possible 4m truck in feet and inches,assuming a stupid loophole in the law that doesn’t apply the in cab imperial height indicator requirement here in the case of international journeys.Also bearing in mind that we’ve been happy to measure engine capacity in cc’s throughout most/all of the 20th Century.As I said look at it as an open minded attitude to measurement as opposed to European/Europhile closed mindedness and ignorance.
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
dieseldog999:
plus being the british goverment that is totally incompetent in most aspects,then theres always the chance that some coffin dodger victor meldrew type cant or wont relate to metric for certain things.which is why we buy milk in litres,tyres, and mostly everything else in metric…apart from the fact ant anyone else in eirope will be familier with metric and see that displayed before anything else,hence the [zb] that measured the bridge clearance for the sign to be made was a fanny.You’d be hard pressed to find metric tyres
Not to mention that the milkman still delivers milk in pints and I’ve also got a carton in the fridge bought today from Sainsburys marked 1 Pint.Not 1 litre or 500 ml but 1 Pint.Just like the pint of beer I buy in the pub and road signs marked in miles or yards and speeds here measured in mph not kmh.While the sign for the bridge was clearly marked 13 feet which should by law be referenced against the imperial height indicator in the cab.Or at least a driver who knows the height of a possible 4m truck in feet and inches,assuming a stupid loophole in the law that doesn’t apply the in cab imperial height indicator requirement here in the case of international journeys.Also bearing in mind that we’ve been happy to measure engine capacity in cc’s throughout most/all of the 20th Century.As I said look at it as an open minded attitude to measurement as opposed to European/Europhile closed mindedness and ignorance.
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
dieseldog999:
plus being the british goverment that is totally incompetent in most aspects,then theres always the chance that some coffin dodger victor meldrew type cant or wont relate to metric for certain things.which is why we buy milk in litres,tyres, and mostly everything else in metric…apart from the fact ant anyone else in eirope will be familier with metric and see that displayed before anything else,hence the [zb] that measured the bridge clearance for the sign to be made was a fanny.You’d be hard pressed to find metric tyres
Not to mention that the milkman still delivers milk in pints and I’ve also got a carton in the fridge bought today from Sainsburys marked 1 Pint.Not 1 litre or 500 ml but 1 Pint.
Buying one pint of milk at a time is a very expensive way to be purchasing milk Carry old fruit. Besides it isn’t labelled 1 little or 500 ml because it’s neither of those things. 
Supermarket milk is labelled with both metric and imperial measurements on packaging.
Bluey Circles:
AndrewG:
Bluey Circles:
And there was a mad time (80s ?) when you could have machines, vehicles, trailers with a mad mix of both imperial and metric fastenings. You had to be very careful on choosing sockets and spanners, put a 13mm on a 1/2 inch or a 19mm on a 3/4 and you would round it.But getting back to heights, how do you all measure your height, do you hold a pole up to the corner closest to the drivers door and take that as accurate or do you measure all four corners of the trailer and use the highest. If you have measured it at full weight do you check again empty (could be significant differences when we were riding on steel, not so much now) And what do you use for measuring, a proper telescopic pole with angled top of just any leghth of wood then measure it with a spool measure ?
Ive only measured once but know a 4m marked tilt will be down to 3.9 m empty on my fifth wheel (set very low) and around 3.8m fully freighted. The air deflector on its lowest setting clears the trailers. if youre driving the same truck its always going to be the same.
I did hay many years ago, used to lay a plank over the top and measure each side then take the highest. Bit pointless really, by the time it was tightened back down every 20 mile could be a foot lower by the time I got into galloway, by which time you could no longer see out the mirrors - stupidist load on the planet.
I used to load roof insulation into a curtainsider and no matter how you strapped it the trailer got wider by the mile and it was a 230 mile journey.
Carryfast:
Not to mention that the milkman still delivers milk in pints and I’ve also got a carton in the fridge bought today from Sainsburys marked 1 Pint.Not 1 litre or 500 ml but 1 Pint.
Glass bottles of milk are still permitted to be sold in one pint bottles, it’s given an exemption like draught drinks. But milk packaged in plastic bottles or cardboard cartons is sold in litres/ml, even if the quantities are integers of pints, eg 568ml, 1.136l, 2.272l etc., they may well mention pints as well, but that’s just for information.
Carryfast:
stevieboy308:
But once again for a bridge to be marked 13’ then minimum it can measure is 13’3" which is 4.0386m thank you pleaseLet’s get this right you want to make up your own rules by ignoring the marked height on bridges and using a margin which may or may not exist,or may exist to a greater or lesser amount,because of numerous variables.Good luck with that.
While the law states that you have to go by the ‘marked’ height indicated in the cab and on the bridge,obviously in imperial not metric.Any deviation from that regarding international operations being a stupid loophole in the law which needs to be sorted.
No you’ve got that wrong.
If you want to get it right, try reading what people write.
According to the gov doc on the rules for signs, that was posted on page 1. It says measure the bridge, knock off 3’ if that figure is not a multiple of 3, then round down to the next multiple of 3. So if a bridge is marked up as 13’ then the lowest it can actually measure is 13’3" which is 4.0386m
I’ve not said you should take a 4m truck or anything else that’s not 13’ or less under a bridge only marked up as 13’ despite what you thing I’ve wrote.
However if someone takes a 4m truck under a bridge marked as 13’ / 4.1m and they ■■■■ it, it’s not the drivers fault, it’s the fault of who measured the bridge
Glen A9:
Carryfast:
Not to mention that the milkman still delivers milk in pints and I’ve also got a carton in the fridge bought today from Sainsburys marked 1 Pint.Not 1 litre or 500 ml but 1 Pint.Glass bottles of milk are still permitted to be sold in one pint bottles, it’s given an exemption like draught drinks. But milk packaged in plastic bottles or cardboard cartons is sold in litres/ml, even if the quantities are integers of pints, eg 568ml, 1.136l, 2.272l etc., they may well mention pints as well, but that’s just for information.
If it’s sold in Litres why would they make it a plastic carton of exactly 1 pint not a round 1 litre or 500 ml.
stevieboy308:
Carryfast:
stevieboy308:
But once again for a bridge to be marked 13’ then minimum it can measure is 13’3" which is 4.0386m thank you pleaseLet’s get this right you want to make up your own rules by ignoring the marked height on bridges and using a margin which may or may not exist,or may exist to a greater or lesser amount,because of numerous variables.Good luck with that.
While the law states that you have to go by the ‘marked’ height indicated in the cab and on the bridge,obviously in imperial not metric.Any deviation from that regarding international operations being a stupid loophole in the law which needs to be sorted.
No you’ve got that wrong.
If you want to get it right, try reading what people write.
According to the gov doc on the rules for signs, that was posted on page 1. It says measure the bridge, knock off 3’ if that figure is not a multiple of 3, then round down to the next multiple of 3. So if a bridge is marked up as 13’ then the lowest it can actually measure is 13’3" which is 4.0386m
I’ve not said you should take a 4m truck or anything else that’s not 13’ or less under a bridge only marked up as 13’ despite what you thing I’ve wrote.
However if someone takes a 4m truck under a bridge marked as 13’ / 4.1m and they [zb] it, it’s not the drivers fault, it’s the fault of who measured the bridge
It doesn’t matter what the rules are regards margins.What matters is that no one takes a 4 m truck under a bridge marked as 13 feet.
Carryfast:
stevieboy308:
Carryfast:
stevieboy308:
But once again for a bridge to be marked 13’ then minimum it can measure is 13’3" which is 4.0386m thank you pleaseLet’s get this right you want to make up your own rules by ignoring the marked height on bridges and using a margin which may or may not exist,or may exist to a greater or lesser amount,because of numerous variables.Good luck with that.
While the law states that you have to go by the ‘marked’ height indicated in the cab and on the bridge,obviously in imperial not metric.Any deviation from that regarding international operations being a stupid loophole in the law which needs to be sorted.
No you’ve got that wrong.
If you want to get it right, try reading what people write.
According to the gov doc on the rules for signs, that was posted on page 1. It says measure the bridge, knock off 3’ if that figure is not a multiple of 3, then round down to the next multiple of 3. So if a bridge is marked up as 13’ then the lowest it can actually measure is 13’3" which is 4.0386m
I’ve not said you should take a 4m truck or anything else that’s not 13’ or less under a bridge only marked up as 13’ despite what you thing I’ve wrote.
However if someone takes a 4m truck under a bridge marked as 13’ / 4.1m and they [zb] it, it’s not the drivers fault, it’s the fault of who measured the bridge
It doesn’t matter what the rules are regards margins.What matters is that no one takes a 4 m truck under a bridge marked as 13 feet.
WTF you still going on about this crap.
the council cocked up, nothing to do with the driver.
Dude, go take your meds and get ready for bingo.
Carryfast, seriously.
Can’t you tell that everybody here is laughing at you and nobody is taking you seriously?
Do you really want to be embarrassed like this all the time? Have you got no self respect?
You are seen here as the village idiot, can’t you see that?
wheelnutt:
Carryfast, seriously.Can’t you tell that everybody here is laughing at you and nobody is taking you seriously?
Do you really want to be embarrassed like this all the time? Have you got no self respect?
You are seen here as the village idiot, can’t you see that?
Some things never change on this forum.
Its arguing for arguments sake. CF knows full well that metric is by far the easiest and sensible but for some reason wants to try to prove us all wrong, but it does seem that whatever subject it is the threads always seem to go this way 
Someones got far too much time on their hands…
AndrewG:
Its arguing for arguments sake. CF knows full well that metric is by far the easiest and sensible but for some reason wants to try to prove us all wrong, but it does seem that whatever subject it is the threads always seem to go this way
Someones got far too much time on their hands…
As I said closed minded arrogant ignorant Europhile metric nazis trying to defend a probable loophole in the law regarding vehicle heights being indicated in imperial and referenced as such regards bridge height markings.
wheelnutt:
CarryfastYou are seen here as the village idiot, can’t you see that?
No the idiots are those who’d happily take a 4m truck under a bridge marked 13 feet.
Carryfast:
AndrewG:
Its arguing for arguments sake. CF knows full well that metric is by far the easiest and sensible but for some reason wants to try to prove us all wrong, but it does seem that whatever subject it is the threads always seem to go this way
Someones got far too much time on their hands…As I said closed minded arrogant ignorant Europhile metric nazis trying to defend a probable loophole in the law regarding vehicle heights being indicated in imperial and referenced as such regards bridge height markings.
And on it goes… 
Carryfast:
Glen A9:
Carryfast:
Not to mention that the milkman still delivers milk in pints and I’ve also got a carton in the fridge bought today from Sainsburys marked 1 Pint.Not 1 litre or 500 ml but 1 Pint.Glass bottles of milk are still permitted to be sold in one pint bottles, it’s given an exemption like draught drinks. But milk packaged in plastic bottles or cardboard cartons is sold in litres/ml, even if the quantities are integers of pints, eg 568ml, 1.136l, 2.272l etc., they may well mention pints as well, but that’s just for information.
If it’s sold in Litres why would they make it a plastic carton of exactly 1 pint not a round 1 litre or 500 ml.
They do. Picture I posted above is a nice round 2 litres. The imperial measures of milk are slowly being phased out for metric. Now, as to wether I’d take 2 litres of milk under a 13ft bridge…well that’s another issue entirely