Glen A9:
Yes, he legally should have had the height displayed in feet and inches when he was driving in the UK (and we don’t know if he did or not)
I wasn’t sure about any ‘legal’ responsibility to know the height in imperial here but if that’s the case and assuming the 13 foot sign was accurate it should have provided the council with a bullet proof defence.While also confirming my case.
To add.The requirement for imperial measure height indicator in the cab is confirmed here.The question is does that also apply to foreign reg vehicles when they are driven here ?.If not it seems like a stupid loophole.
Picture of a ruler
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Metric goes up in tens , easy to work out things in tens
Imperial goes up in whatever it goes up in
EIGHTH’s QUARTER’s SIXTEENTH’s THIRTY-TOOTH’s SIXTY-FOURTH’s
And you wrote So let’s say 13 foot 6 inches.I buy 14 feet of timber and cut off 6 inches.However I might want that to end up as 13 feet 5 and 5/8 th inches.Remind us how many different reference points you’ll need to refer to for the same piece on a ruler marked out in metres,centimetres and mm’s.Bearing in mind I’ll need to count to only the relevant feet/inches and eighth markers also bearing in mind I’ve also got the choice of sixteenths,thirty seconds and sixty fourths of an inch to choose from in the case of precision sheet metal work for example.
I rest my case !!!
If I want to calculate something on the base of TEN easy-peasy-simplicity
In the imperial system which you seem to adore, calculating anything it is a BLOOMING NIGHTMARE
Oh and I should add before you say something stupid like, what would you know about the imperial system, you’re French, I was born in England and did all my education in England, so I know all about £sd, " ’ yds, oz lbs st
And why didn’t you say anything about my comment of the UK driver collecting his trailer marked up as 4m00 trundling into the 4m1 bridge ■■?
Cosmic:
This is a council/HA [zb] up, nothing to do with the driver. This is the second time in a month that a 4.0 trailer hits a 4.1 bridge.
Nothing to do with us, this bridge is in Wales, we only operate in England - hence the name Highways England. 
when i went to school it was easier just counting on your fingers…then we went metric and it was all too easy
simon1958:
Quote :-‘’ The council put the wrong sign up’'. I’ll have a word tomorrow. Probably close the road off for a load of wombles on tea break before they get their tape measures out
Wrong! we don’t work in Wales.
pierrot 14:
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Metric goes up in tens , easy to work out things in tens
Imperial goes up in whatever it goes up in
EIGHTH’s QUARTER’s SIXTEENTH’s THIRTY-TOOTH’s SIXTY-FOURTH’sAnd you wrote So let’s say 13 foot 6 inches.I buy 14 feet of timber and cut off 6 inches.However I might want that to end up as 13 feet 5 and 5/8 th inches.Remind us how many different reference points you’ll need to refer to for the same piece on a ruler marked out in metres,centimetres and mm’s.Bearing in mind I’ll need to count to only the relevant feet/inches and eighth markers also bearing in mind I’ve also got the choice of sixteenths,thirty seconds and sixty fourths of an inch to choose from in the case of precision sheet metal work for example.
I rest my case !!!If I want to calculate something on the base of TEN easy-peasy-simplicity
In the imperial system which you seem to adore, calculating anything it is a BLOOMING NIGHTMARE
Oh and I should add before you say something stupid like, what would you know about the imperial system, you’re French, I was born in England and did all my education in England, so I know all about £sd, " ’ yds, oz lbs stAnd why didn’t you say anything about my comment of the UK driver collecting his trailer marked up as 4m00 trundling into the 4m1 bridge ■■?
The premise remains.He needs to know the height in feet and inches and a 4 m trailer won’t go under a marked 13 foot bridge.
As for it supposedly being easy to work out things in Metric.Obviously not if you want to cut a 13 foot 5 and 5/8 inches long piece of wood or drive a truck measured in metres under a bridge measured and marked in feet and inches.Especially if the council has predictably got the conversion factor wrong in trying to save you the bother.
I’m not reading through 7 pages of this crap, but I am wondering if anybody has mentioned the proper name for metric measurements? They’re referred to as S I units or System International, that is, everyone else uses them.
Rightly or wrongly, imperial measurements are being phased out, they’re not even taught in schools anymore (except as a novelty).
Correct, ask British or English born people if you like, how many yards in a mile, and most cannot even give you the correct answer.
Unless their ancient, and fought in WW2.
I work with trained engineers who don’t have a clue how many inches there are in a foot.
Because they haven’t learned it, it’s outdated, should have been buried with with all the other dodgy standards.
Anyone working with Reaumur? Temperature scale used in kitchens and bakeries?
Oh the joy when you worked on different equipment, it was either Whitworth, S.A.E or Metric.
Whitworth and S.A.E. was the most confusing as half a inch Whitworth is 7mm bigger than half a Inch S.A.E.
WTF 2 different inches?
What is easier (and I CF while you know you talk BS (bsf?) you will never admit)
If you need a spanner 1 size up, to get the next number or do some calculation to find the next one up??
Example, you have a 12 mm spanner and you need the next size up you take a 13 mm spanner.
Or you have a 1/4 spanner and the next size up should be a 5/16.
Does make sense, or does it?
Does it ■■■■■■■■
Can’t believe this thread is still going. How deep a hole do we recon we can get CF to dig? And will that hole be measured in metric (SI) or imperial [emoji23]
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the nodding donkey:
Any fool knows that 1 meter is equal to three stone.
ROFLPMSL… 
… spat my 330ml cup of tea out at that one… 
Beef:
Can’t believe this thread is still going. How deep a hole do we recon we can get CF to dig? And will that hole be measured in metric (SI) or imperial [emoji23]Sent from my SM-G800F using Tapatalk
Carryfast will keep going with this until he’s 1829 mm under.
Sunday Morning Quiz City and Guilds, put the following jaw sizes in the correct order:
- 3/16" Whitworth or 1/4" BSF. "
- 11 mm.
- 1/4" AF
- 0 BA
- 11/32" AF
- 12 mm
Edit add: I forgot 1/4" BSP, but that can vary.
cav551:
Sunday Morning Quiz City and Guilds, put the following jaw sizes in the correct order:
- 3/16" Whitworth or 1/4" BSF. "
- 11 mm.
- 1/4" AF
- 0 BA
- 11/32" AF
- 12 mm
I bet CF is Googling it right now
(Edited to add), In the real world the order is, from lowest to highest
No. 2 then No. 6
caledoniandream:
Correct, ask British or English born people if you like, how many yards in a mile, and most cannot even give you the correct answer.
Unless their ancient, and fought in WW2.
I work with trained engineers who don’t have a clue how many inches there are in a foot.
Because they haven’t learned it, it’s outdated, should have been buried with with all the other dodgy standards.Anyone working with Reaumur? Temperature scale used in kitchens and bakeries?
Oh the joy when you worked on different equipment, it was either Whitworth, S.A.E or Metric.
Whitworth and S.A.E. was the most confusing as half a inch Whitworth is 7mm bigger than half a Inch S.A.E.
WTF 2 different inches?What is easier (and I CF while you know you talk BS (bsf?) you will never admit)
If you need a spanner 1 size up, to get the next number or do some calculation to find the next one up??
Example, you have a 12 mm spanner and you need the next size up you take a 13 mm spanner.
Or you have a 1/4 spanner and the next size up should be a 5/16.
Does make sense, or does it?
Does it ■■■■■■■■
As I said in the real world there’s no need to count yards into miles because they are different scales used for different applications.Just as in the real world if you’re working on something that needs Whitworth spanners you generally won’t need to mix that with AF.Just as if you’re working with feet and inches it doesn’t matter how many feet in a yard or how many yards in a mile.
On that note I don’t remember ever needing to use my Dad’s obsolete Whitworth tools on anything made in my time just as he’d told me I wouldn’t.
As for the metric spanner example v AF at least.As in all cases with metric just different based on the same old reference to the metre and certainly not superior.
Carryfast:
The premise remains.He needs to know the height in feet and inches and a 4 m trailer won’t go under a marked 13 foot bridge.
Technically it should! For a bridge to be marked up as 13 foot, then the absolute minimum it should be is 13’3" which converts to 4.0386m
Eh up, 7 pages, I reckon at least 10 before the Whitworth master Carryfast runs out of steam. As it happens I’ve used Whitworth plenty of times on stuff made in my lifetime, and just before, as an apprentice mechanic on old Leyland buses. Some even had even weirder more obsolete sizes. Was BSU one?
Edit: BSF, just seen it mentioned further up
stevieboy308:
Carryfast:
The premise remains.He needs to know the height in feet and inches and a 4 m trailer won’t go under a marked 13 foot bridge.Technically it should! For a bridge to be marked up as 13 foot, then the absolute minimum it should be is 13’3" which converts to 4.0386m
You’re supposed to go by the marked height not any supposed safety margin added to the figure.
Carryfast:
stevieboy308:
Carryfast:
The premise remains.He needs to know the height in feet and inches and a 4 m trailer won’t go under a marked 13 foot bridge.Technically it should! For a bridge to be marked up as 13 foot, then the absolute minimum it should be is 13’3" which converts to 4.0386m
You’re supposed to go by the marked height not any supposed safety margin added to the figure.
Obviously cf
Just saying if a bridge is lower than 13’3" / 4.0386m and it’s marked up as 13’ then the sign is wrong.
And 4m truck will fit under a 13’3" / 4.0386m even you won’t argue that point.
Forgive me, it’s getting late, I’ll run it by you again in the morning!!
Carryfast:
stevieboy308:
Carryfast:
The premise remains.He needs to know the height in feet and inches and a 4 m trailer won’t go under a marked 13 foot bridge.Technically it should! For a bridge to be marked up as 13 foot, then the absolute minimum it should be is 13’3" which converts to 4.0386m
You’re supposed to go by the marked height not any supposed safety margin added to the figure.
P OFF Carrryfast, you just said “you’re supposed to go by the marked height not ANY supposed safety margin”
Well this poor non-UK driver pulling a 4mt trailer wanted to go under a bridge marked up as 4m1 . In his eyes, coming down the road at 30/40 mph he was safe to go under it, END OF !!! He obviously didn’t have time to get out his calculator to work out WTF 13’0 was
and wether there was a discrepancy between the one he recognized and the mis-information on the one he didn’t !!
switchlogic:
As it happens I’ve used Whitworth plenty of times on stuff made in my lifetime, and just before, as an apprentice mechanic on old Leyland buses
What reg were the buses ?.
I was born at the end of the 1950’s and don’t think that much made since then generally used Whitworth fastenings.While if it did I wasn’t familiar with it.