American trailers in uk

as far i remember they are made by amcor,and as well as the american tail lights there is usually an american style number plate and they have no side underrun bars.

newmercman:

Big Joe:
The majority are heading for British Aerospace at Broughton, Chester from the ACL Ro-Ro boat that docks at Seaforth with high grade aluminium and wing components from the States. Think they have to be pulled with units taxed at STGO.

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Is that because of the length? The standard flat bed here is 48’ but they do have 53’rs too, don’t know what size those ACL ones are, but I presume they’re 48’s

Probably because they don’t comply with any C&U regs on dimensions and turning circle requirements.

Carryfast:
And the only thing stopping anyone running TIR between Europe and North America is the shipping rate for ro ro on that service versus the rate for a container :open_mouth: .So how anyone can make it pay to send even unaccompanied trailers is anyone’s guess.

Sending a trailer over costs very little, sending a tractor unit and driver over with it costs money. That is the whole point of containerisation.

The only thing that puzzles me is that I thought American trailers had 12v electrics.

Youre right Harry, most are 12v …we had to change the bulbs on some (once had to change 112 bulbs on one trailer :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: ) but on others we either used a light board or a bloody big voltage converter bolted to the catwalk. The converter could be used either way (12v-24v or 24v-12v) and had electric suzy plugs on it. you pluged the truck into the appropriate socket and had another suzy from the converter to the trailer.

Some trailers you could only use a lightboard coz the electrics were earthed through the 5th wheel rather than the suzies.

Also had to have palm coupling adapters .

IIRC we didnt need STGO for UK just had to have overlength permits for everywhere else.

Harry Monk:
The only thing that puzzles me is that I thought American trailers had 12v electrics.

They do have 12 volt electrics.

And very bright lights when connected to a UK unit :smiley: :smiley:

Harry Monk:

Carryfast:
And the only thing stopping anyone running TIR between Europe and North America is the shipping rate for ro ro on that service versus the rate for a container :open_mouth: .So how anyone can make it pay to send even unaccompanied trailers is anyone’s guess.

Sending a trailer over costs very little, sending a tractor unit and driver over with it costs money. That is the whole point of containerisation.

The only thing that puzzles me is that I thought American trailers had 12v electrics.

That was the bit I could never understand.The driver would’nt be with the outfit anyway because if I remember right they don’t take passengers on the service so have a rest or do some other work while it’s crossing then fly out when it docks and the same on the return.But I think it was partly a height issue because it’s just a case of using a yank spec skele trailer and unit with a TIR tilt intermodal body on it and temporary use of yank spec vehicles is ok here but forget using a conventional though.But a unit coupled up on the front would’nt be much extra in overall length to pay for.But the actual rate for using the ro ro part of the service instead of containers (same ship does both) was unviable from what I heard of the figures.But yank trucks were always known for having 12 volt electrics.

It was reported on here, earlier this year I think, that a UK registered cab over artic had been seen on the road in the US. A rare sight indeed.

Toowise that was interesting about dragging the fuselages around Europe.

A few years ago whilst I was working part time for P & O Ferrymasters, the boss called me at home one day to ask if I would be interested in an unusual one off job.

The client had requested a driver of respectable appearance. i.e. no shaved heads, tattoos, dragging knuckles, etc. and I fit the bill. :smiley:

The details he had were very scant, but it was something about pulling an American trailer around Europe, being away a month or more.
Never found out any more as the job didn’t come off (maybe we’d quoted too high), but it seems to fit with your post above and makes me wonder if it was something similar.

Driveroneuk:
It was reported on here, earlier this year I think, that a UK registered cab over artic had been seen on the road in the US. A rare sight indeed.

I’d doubt if that was an actual haulage operation.The yanks won’t allow a euro spec/UK registered truck to be used for haulage in the states even if it’s only temporary entry TIR operations and you can’t register/base a yank truck here that would meet DOT spec.It’s only an operation that would work using a DOT spec truck on temporary entry here.If those conditions are met and if the shipping rate for shipping an artic outfit on the ro ro decks was around the same as shipping a container,then on the figures and rates at the time I was asking the questions,you could, theoretically,probably have earnt enough to do the European/UK side of the job for nothing with the potential rates/mileages,revenues versus costs of also doing the long distance running on the North American side.All done on a job with probably very little,if any,competition because the yanks would’nt want to waste their time running over here and the traction this side could’nt do the job this side for free. :open_mouth:

Carryfast:
The yanks won’t allow a euro spec/UK registered truck to be used for haulage in the states even if it’s only temporary entry

Ok what is this then?

It looks just like a Topline Scania to me, seen on I-95 in Virginia last month, there were a couple of other Scanias and some FHs too but they were all being overtaken so I never managed a shot of any of them :wink:

I used to work at airbus and can confirm the trailers have fuselages and wing sets for the 125 executive jet.They are now assembled in kansas as opposed to aerospace/airbus as it is now called.

newmercman:

Carryfast:
The yanks won’t allow a euro spec/UK registered truck to be used for haulage in the states even if it’s only temporary entry

Ok what is this then?
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It looks just like a Topline Scania to me, seen on I-95 in Virginia last month, there were a couple of other Scanias and some FHs too but they were all being overtaken so I never managed a shot of any of them :wink:

Think you’ll find that’s a totally different operation to actual haulage between Europe/US.There’s already confirmed reports of euro and US trucks being used for own account motor racing transport between the states and here,in which both the truck and the load are on temporary entry,but haulage is a different matter.All foreign trucks need US DOT conformity for actually doing ‘haulage’ in the states (ie deliver a load to US customers and collect a return load) :question: .But to get that comformity and compliance here would put the truck outside the scope of euro type approval and uk mot plating requirements and therefore it could’nt be registered or taxed here.Which is why you could’nt use a uk spec truck to run a TIR operation between Europe and North America.But I’d be interested to know if I’m wrong though.But having said that the Scania in the pic might be a US spec export one :question:.Because it looks like it might be a 6x4 not a 6x2 with a lift axle :question: :laughing: :laughing: .But if it was being overtaken by every yank truck on the road you can probably bet that it’s a euro own account operation fitted with a speed limiter :open_mouth: :wink: :laughing: :laughing:.

Carryfast:
Because it looks like it might be a 6x4 not a 6x2 with a lift axle :question: :laughing: :laughing: .

It is a 6x4, you can see it is if you blow up the picture.

Harry Monk:

Carryfast:
Because it looks like it might be a 6x4 not a 6x2 with a lift axle :question: :laughing: :laughing: .

It is a 6x4, you can see it is if you blow up the picture.

If it’s a 6x4 euro race boat transporter I can just hear newmercman shouting what’s wrong with you people over there using such outdated yank technology. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Carryfast:
If it’s a 6x4 euro race boat transporter I can just hear newmercman shouting what’s wrong with you people over there using such outdated yank technology. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

It appears to be US-registered, it has a green number plate.

Harry Monk:

Carryfast:
If it’s a 6x4 euro race boat transporter I can just hear newmercman shouting what’s wrong with you people over there using such outdated yank technology. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

It appears to be US-registered, it has a green number plate.

Blimey that’s a relief I thought you was going to say that it’s Polish. :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: But if it’s a yank spec Scania then it won’t have much in common with the euro spec one.It might even have a Detroit engine in it. :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Carryfast:

Harry Monk:

Carryfast:
If it’s a 6x4 euro race boat transporter I can just hear newmercman shouting what’s wrong with you people over there using such outdated yank technology. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

It appears to be US-registered, it has a green number plate.

Blimey that’s a relief I thought you was going to say that it’s Polish. :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: But if it’s a yank spec Scania then it won’t have much in common with the euro spec one.It might even have a Detroit engine in it. :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I know scania imported trucks to the us in the 80s and 90s but thought they stopped when the 4 series came out. They never sold in great numbers probbaly due to the americans resistance to anything they dont know they were mainly carryfasts beloved 6x4s but with a scania driveline and were mainly sold on the east coast.One of the reasons they never took off was the fact they never had a nationwide sales and suppourt network but the guy i spoke to had two t cab 113s and a t cab 143 one had the standard scania sleeper and the other two were day cabs with the traditional added on sleeper compartment and he thought they were head and shoulders above the us trucks of the time.

This is in French with no subtitles. This is the first in a series which sees a Magnum do Route 66.

I saw this on the M60/62 a while back.

Coddy:
Yes they are used for wing componants for Airbus, they also use some long bodied trailers as well, for those that have never been to Airbus at Broughton, its well worth a visit on an open day, the A380 wing assembly plant is awesome, and watching the Belugas being being loaded is very interesting, almost like something out of Thunderbirds lol… Beechcraft are also made on site.

As spotted on the A34


The Scania was, as I said, in a convoy, that mob who compete in the offshore powerboat championships are mostly based in Dubai or somewhere like that, which may explain the green number plate, if it is indeed green, the only US state with a green number plate is Vermont, so they may be temporary Vermont plates if they shipped in through Montreal and headed straight south :wink:

Oh and it’s a 6x2 lift axle, that rear axle is a twin wheeled tag, it didn’t appear to be stuck Crazyfast, so it would seem the 6x4 is now officially redundant in the USA :laughing: :laughing: (sorry folks, couldn’t help myself :blush: :cry: )

Erm, Colorado and Maine have green plates… Well, green writing.