Amateur 'mechanics' fixing trucks - a danger?

spooky70:
Rambo19. Got a couple of extra N/O’s in my wages. Better than nowt and I wasn’t overly inconvenienced.

Good stuff, you scratch my back etc.

When my dad had lorries, if a driver changed a wheel on the road, he always got extra in his wages, saved my dad a fortune with ATS.

kitch91:
So say a young driver like my self who has not got the experience of fixing any thing apart from a bulb on a truck would they still want me to try and solve the problem or would they tell me to call someone out■■?

I would expect the only problems you should attempt to fix are those you feel comfortable doing. In this day and age of health and safety being allowed to go mad if your not trained qualified to do a job then the decision and repercussions remain as always with the driver.

Over time you will pick up a few tricks that can get you home if needed but a callout should be done if in doubt.

I wouldn’t expect even old hands to attempt some of the strange things I have done (and I dont mean my Sticky Vicky tribute act party piece). In the same way as a lot of drivers can do stuff that I wouldn’t have a clue how to do.

If you new its always worth having a look at the vehicles manual as this will give you some basics of what to do for minor fixes. Which reminds me I need to read my manual.

Thanks dipper_dave like I say am a young new driver had my license 4 years but only really started work for a firm a few months so am on here trying to learn things from you more experienced drivers.

I do basics change bulbs lens sus ie or a make do and mend to get back to the yard for the firm I work for as that’s the way it is.
However if I was asked to start doing a service adjust brakes etc I wouldn’t as I don’t want to be a fitter.

Muckaway:
What about “professional” mechanics being happy to bodge repairs and say “it’ll do for now”? Rather annoying, particularly when it comes from those contracted to do repairs and maintenance.

I had a “mechanic” came out from Northampton to Brackley to attend a failed brake chamber on a fully loaded tanker. He took the airline off the chamber folded it back and put a jubilee clip round it, and said “there you go just run it back to Northampton for me to save me running back down here with new brake chamber” I declined his offer and waited for him to come back

theres the difference…some would and some wouldn’t…id have clamped it with a pair of mole grips,wouldnt have bothered with the callout and would just have had it fixed later…though depending on the firm,then you wouldnt be bothered obliging them if its the Tosco type who wouldn’t want you to in the 1st place.takes allsorts,hence its a discussion board.you have 1 wheel not braking out of 10 or 12,not exactly a biggie if you don’t want it to be.all depends on who you are and who your working for.

I guess that nowadays most driver’s (apart from od’s) don’t even carry tools? Modern trucks are presumably a lot more reliable than stuff from the eighties and earlier that I drove, but when they do go wrong it will probably be an electronic based issue and not easily fixed with basic tools? I was a time served HGV mechanic but it is doubtfull that I could tackle much repair wise on a new truck, my time has long passed! :blush:

Pete.

There can be a huge saving from doing an emergency roadside repair. I ran over a Beaver a few months back and it ripped both hoses out of one of my brake chambers.

Two pairs of molegrips and the brake wound off and I was able to get to a parts shop and buy a new brake chamber, the fittings were ripped out of the chamber so a new one was necessary. At the parts place they cut the pushrod to length for me and I replaced it myself, cost me less than the price I would’ve paid for the part through a service call and I had no call out charge and no hourly rate while the fitter went back to get the part that he hadn’t brought with him as is usually the case.

It wasn’t the easiest of jobs as I struggled to slide under the side skirts on the unit and the guts and snot from what was left of the Beaver were all over the place, but I got to my delivery on time and repaired my lorry as economically as possible under the circumstances.

Been a truck “mechanic” for nigh on 40 years,
But I see a lot of “■■■■■■■” truck divers that cant drive a truck
See some ■■■■ with his brand new license some how thinks his “2 week ticket” trumps my lifetime in the game.

And yet a young lad came to the garage the other night with a locked up trailer.But, and a real but he asked what I had done to release the brakes. I said Ah whatever but he said he would like to “how it worked”
A real gem, a real truck driver,a real employee worth paying.
Most are stones but some are real diamonds, a thing to be treasured.

I always try to find out the cure for a problem I can’t solve, that way the next time it happens I’ll know what to do.

klunk/■■■■■■■■
Oh dear, drivers of today don,t know what it used to like driving the heaps of the past,start at a haulage company and given the old piece of crap in the corner of the yard, that was snorting and spitting at you,thats how it was take it or leave it.
In my 40 years of driving i have done ,numerous wheel changes,propshaft hardy spicer change, fan belts,head gasket/water pump,wheel bearings,fuel filters,ect.
Wheel changes,bulbs,with training how to do safely should be part of the DCPC instead of the useless crap that is spield to us.
Klunk

can you see some of these on here changing a wheel :open_mouth: :laughing:

ive even seen drivers asking for a fitter to change a bulb :open_mouth:

burnley-si:

klunk/■■■■■■■■
Oh dear, drivers of today don,t know what it used to like driving the heaps of the past,start at a haulage company and given the old piece of crap in the corner of the yard, that was snorting and spitting at you,thats how it was take it or leave it.
In my 40 years of driving i have done ,numerous wheel changes,propshaft hardy spicer change, fan belts,head gasket/water pump,wheel bearings,fuel filters,ect.
Wheel changes,bulbs,with training how to do safely should be part of the DCPC instead of the useless crap that is spield to us.
Klunk

can you see some of these on here changing a wheel :open_mouth: :laughing:

ive even seen drivers asking for a fitter to change a bulb :open_mouth:

Not where I work shag,they want you to top up their oil,blow up the trailer tyres,couple the yellow line(bad arm) back it over the pit,check their brake lights work,wind up stiff landing legs,turn over internal tail lift switch,start ,bleed,set fridges,clean yes clean mirrors,top up coolant,set cab heater temp,set digi tacho local time,change tacho language,write out defect,empty rubbish from cab doors,pull wheel pin,open shutter cos its “heavy” and couple to a rear steer trailer cos they cant work out the “angle” of the steering block and all while Im wearing a short skirt and stilettoes.

Used to be a job for “men” now for just a bunch of redundant nobodies who because they got lucky one day and passed a poxy driving test think I am there to wipe their ■■■.

My wife and daughters have more ,what would you call it? self esteem,nouse,bollox than most of these “truckers” will accrue over their “driving” lifetime.
They should be ashamed.

Bking:
Not where I work shag,they want you to top up their oil,blow up the trailer tyres,couple the yellow line(bad arm) back it over the pit,check their brake lights work,wind up stiff landing legs,turn over internal tail lift switch,start ,bleed,set fridges,clean yes clean mirrors,top up coolant,set cab heater temp,set digi tacho local time,change tacho language,write out defect,empty rubbish from cab doors,pull wheel pin,open shutter cos its “heavy” and couple to a rear steer trailer cos they cant work out the “angle” of the steering block and all while Im wearing a short skirt and stilettoes.

Used to be a job for “men” now for just a bunch of redundant nobodies who because they got lucky one day and passed a poxy driving test think I am there to wipe their ■■■.

My wife and daughters have more ,what would you call it? self esteem,nouse,bollox than most of these “truckers” will accrue over their “driving” lifetime.
They should be ashamed.

Wow what a tirade :open_mouth:

Thing is, if you really are doing all this stuff for your driving colleagues, then they are never going to get found out :unamused: and will just keep dragging us all down. Stop nurse maiding and make them stand on their own feet, then maybe that will separate the wheat from the chaff :wink:

Bking no offense intended but you sound like the company ■■■.
Almost ever company has one, (some even have multiple ■■■■■ competing for the status of top ■■■■■■) they can be found proclaiming to have an expert knowledge on everything, sticking their nose into everyones business, routeplanning for others by the coffee machine and tricked by other drivers to do stuff when they keep following em round tne yard trying to make conversation.

They have even bee known to volunteer their services to assist others drivers, then the moment they get chance slag these drivers off afterwards pretending they had to do these jobs as the driver didn’t know how to do them.

No driver in their right mind expects another to help in the coupling procedure (and I dont mean coitus). In fact if another driver helps me out by winding the landing legs up, although gratefull I still have to check myself again and often double check the whole procedure as its thrown me out of sink.

so they are looking for someone with a C+E licence, ability to plug in a magic box then swap part for part? :laughing:

Dipper_Dave:
Bking no offense intended but you sound like the company ■■■.
Almost ever company has one, (some even have multiple ■■■■■ competing for the status of top ■■■■■■) they can be found proclaiming to have an expert knowledge on everything, sticking their nose into everyones business, routeplanning for others by the coffee machine and tricked by other drivers to do stuff when they keep following em round tne yard trying to make conversation.

They have even bee known to volunteer their services to assist others drivers, then the moment they get chance slag these drivers off afterwards pretending they had to do these jobs as the driver didn’t know how to do them.

No driver in their right mind expects another to help in the coupling procedure (and I dont mean coitus). In fact if another driver helps me out by winding the landing legs up, although gratefull I still have to check myself again and often double check the whole procedure as its thrown me out of sink.

I didnt say I did it but that is what these “professionals” expect.
Unfortunately they are often disappointed.
But there again I had a “skilled” man start the other night. Trying to change a wheel on a tractor without first jacking it up off the floor!

A little worrying shall we say.

eddie snax:

Bking:
Not where I work shag,they want you to top up their oil,blow up the trailer tyres,couple the yellow line(bad arm) back it over the pit,check their brake lights work,wind up stiff landing legs,turn over internal tail lift switch,start ,bleed,set fridges,clean yes clean mirrors,top up coolant,set cab heater temp,set digi tacho local time,change tacho language,write out defect,empty rubbish from cab doors,pull wheel pin,open shutter cos its “heavy” and couple to a rear steer trailer cos they cant work out the “angle” of the steering block and all while Im wearing a short skirt and stilettoes.

Used to be a job for “men” now for just a bunch of redundant nobodies who because they got lucky one day and passed a poxy driving test think I am there to wipe their ■■■.

My wife and daughters have more ,what would you call it? self esteem,nouse,bollox than most of these “truckers” will accrue over their “driving” lifetime.
They should be ashamed.

Wow what a tirade :open_mouth:

Thing is, if you really are doing all this stuff for your driving colleagues, then they are never going to get found out :unamused: and will just keep dragging us all down. Stop nurse maiding and make them stand on their own feet, then maybe that will separate the wheat from the chaff :wink:

They then went to transport office and complained! Cheeky ■■■■■■■■ then rang me and told me “driver” outside the garage needed oil and would I put some in the truck.
Short answer ended in off!
And if they had pushed it they would have been told to stick their job up their ■■■.
Dont mind helping anybody but not being crapped on by some useless prick.
Rather lose the job than what bit of dignity I got.

burnley-si:

klunk/■■■■■■■■
Oh dear, drivers of today don,t know what it used to like driving the heaps of the past,start at a haulage company and given the old piece of crap in the corner of the yard, that was snorting and spitting at you,thats how it was take it or leave it.
In my 40 years of driving i have done ,numerous wheel changes,propshaft hardy spicer change, fan belts,head gasket/water pump,wheel bearings,fuel filters,ect.
Wheel changes,bulbs,with training how to do safely should be part of the DCPC instead of the useless crap that is spield to us.
Klunk

can you see some of these on here changing a wheel :open_mouth: :laughing:

ive even seen drivers asking for a fitter to change a bulb :open_mouth:

Seen one of them at carnforth with a Volvo FH. Then I saw the fitter underneath the truck so I wandered over and showed them both how to change the headlight bulb and this is not a joke :laughing:

Lots of “amatuer” drivers out in trucks but thats OK.

Not a danger as not much difference between an “amatuer” and a “professional” these days.

As you so admirably demonstrate time and again…