biggusdickusgb:
sorry its on a garden hose to illustrate but my mate wouldn’t let me cut his airline
FAR too technical.
Just fold it over and secure it with a cable tie.
Less kit to carry. 
And they have other uses. 
are they just bolted on like the air lines? or is it a bit more difficult?
Krankee:
Just fold it over and secure it with a cable tie.
i carry those as you never know.
if it cant be fixed with a cable tie it doesnt deserve to be fixed!!!
Giblsa:
are they just bolted on like the air lines? or is it a bit more difficult?
no, on most lorries they push onto the unit, the same as the end you put in the trailer, but some now have both suzies going into one point on the unit side, i’ve never really looked at that type, so couldn’t help there until i’ve done one myself
Electricals have a female socket at each end, and are not interchangeable.
If caught, they tend to get ‘ripped out’ as opposed to ‘ripped off’. Although, of course, Murphy’s Law still applies.
The most commonest form of failure is due to a break in the copper cabling. Copper, of course, works hardens. Which means that the more it is stressed, the more brittle it becomes.
There’s not much you can do about that and, whilst I would never advocate driving a vehicle with defective lights, 
I once had a trailer where ALL the tail (and side marker) lights failed, but the rear fogs still worked.
The ISO lead, on the other hand, is secured at each end and will sever if caught. It is effectively a ‘data’ lead for the ABS. However, the original press release from VOSA, which contained the requirement for the fitment of this lead, read something along the lines of, “where the ABS does not draw its power source from an alternative supply.”
For some years, on many trailers, the ABS has been sourcing a power supply from the conventional connections. Which makes the ISO lead not compulsory - although the ‘data-handling’ of the ABS would obviously be reduced.
I keep meaning to look up the numbers for the various connections and identifying the ‘pin-outs’. I think, they are 27N and 27R.
I was slightly concerned to see an Aviation Engineer of this standing to suggest such a Heath Robinson fix as using PTFE or plumbers hemp on a compression fitting. Would this not affect how the new olive was compressed?
I try to make sure I always got a selection of new olives or as a last resort a pocketful of push fit wade couplers, they come in handy for a driver to fit big air horns and duster guns too
biggusdickusgb:
again as an od i would put a spare on, and repair the one i’d busted later on when i had time, although all the new ones i’ve seen recently are moulded so i’d put the spare on and chuck the damaged one.
progress, apparently!
or… ever more clever ways to part operators from more of their already very thin profit margins.
Happy Keith:
biggusdickusgb:
sorry wrecktech, it was aimed at happy keithBiggus …In precis I was an aircraft mechanical engineer technician - which either is or is not a big deal - depending on who one is.
I never was a ‘fitter’ though, matey …and believe it to be an outdated term which might mean something more to pukka lorry menders. Meanwhile, I respect them for the crud that they work with and for what they tolerate on the whole - which I am largely allergic to in this industry because it’s too flippin’ mingin’ for me to do it …and because I’m an untrained wuss.
However, I like driving safe wagons whilst keeping maintenance/recovery dudes in high esteem to do their job when significant things go wrong with a combination, etc …and that is the crux of our banter, eh?
after speaking to a mate thats in the game, i can understand you being upset at being called a fitter if you were doing what he does,
in precis “strip, modify and repair, rebuild and test the tornado fleet, it goes down to bare frame” his words not mine.
you indicated you were a mechanic of 30 year standing, you hadn’t said anything about being an aircraft technician when the “fitter” remark was made.
you left that one to swing the “banter” in your favour.
a fitter is as far as i know an affectionate not derogatory term for what you call “pukka lorry menders”
like i said on an earlier post, i’ve been in this game over 30 years and i’ve yet to meet a mechanic upset at being called a fitter
to he who wanted advice about changing airlines
find time to go the the garage and ask the grease monkey (haulage co.)
find time to visit the highly skilled technician in the VMU (logistics plc.)
There are a lot more reasons to be able to undertake simple get you home fixes on a truck,
A common enough fault could be an injector pipe, imagine Tesco Baghdad having to call out a accredited service technician to drive through the hot desert with a servicable part, meanwhile the driver is suffering from heat exhaustion. while a driver with a little bit of nouse and a spare universal pipe could be on his way within 20 minutes. Just dont use a ring spanner 
and dont forget the vibration clamps when you do fit the replacement.
Or he could just bend the end over with a hammer to enable him to reach an oasis of Brits with a supply of Efes and a spare pipe.
How many times have you picked a trailer up with a tail or brake light not working? the bulb is ok because you have tested it in the other side, a 2 minute job with a screw driver may just be enough to reattach the corroded wire. It takes less time than fitting a 13 amp plug.
Oh I forgot, Health and Safety stopped you doing that too
Driveroneuk:
(Though HK may set the union on you) :lol:
Er, no he wouldn’t …he has given no indication of militancy in this thread or any other and quite reasonably resents the innuendo, deeming it to be an ill placed and throwback 1970’s bullying tactic.
He’d appreciate an appropriate retraction because the ‘…lol…’ does not save an unfounded shot like that …or a tea, white, no sugar ; )
Keith, if you intend to continue to participate in this forum, and you are most welcome, you need to lighten up & not take the often good humoured banter here too seriously.
Wheel Nut:
I was slightly concerned to see an Aviation Engineer of this standing to suggest such a Heath Robinson fix as using PTFE or plumbers hemp on a compression fitting. Would this not affect how the new olive was compressed?
In my situation, PTFE tape was arguably required for the threaded portion of a union between the reservoir & caliper (as diagnosed by the call-out dude, because frankly, I wasn’t going to grovel under there) in lieu of it being a ‘dry’ connection. I ain’t trained on lorry brakes so can’t substantiate with authority, but appreciate that you may have been unaware of the circumstances and their not involving a compression fitting.
H. Robinson wasn’t on that job because it ended with a Rolls-Royce fix.
Plumbers hemp…who brought that up, but either way, wanna brew?
Driveroneuk:
Keith, if you intend to continue to participate in this forum, and you are most welcome, you need to lighten up & not take the often good humoured banter here too seriously.
Too tight for a brew then …wassat tell me…!
Happy Keith:
Wheel Nut:
I was slightly concerned to see an Aviation Engineer of this standing to suggest such a Heath Robinson fix as using PTFE or plumbers hemp on a compression fitting. Would this not affect how the new olive was compressed?In my situation, PTFE tape was arguably required for the threaded portion of a union between the reservoir & caliper (as diagnosed by the call-out dude, because frankly, I wasn’t going to grovel under there) in lieu of it being a ‘dry’ connection. I ain’t trained on lorry brakes so can’t substantiate with authority, but appreciate that you may have been unaware of the circumstances and their not involving a compression fitting.
H. Robinson wasn’t on that job because it ended with a Rolls-Royce fix.
Plumbers hemp…who brought that up, but either way, wanna brew?
Plumbers hemp, wattle and daub, PTFE. Whatever,
anyway, yes, if the kettle is on. I would love a brew, do you mind if I use my old tea stained enamel mug?
Wheel Nut:
I would love a brew, do you mind if I use my old tea stained enamel mug?
oh deary deary me NO, you must use a cup properly distritbuted by a cup distribution lady, and washed by a fully licensed soap and water operative.
can’t have you using something where you could possibly risk germs and possibly affect your health, or have the chance of the handle possibly coming away from the rest of the cup and possibly hurting you. 
edited cos i forgot smilies and wouldn’t want anyone to think i’m serious
biggusdickusgb:
Wheel Nut:
I would love a brew, do you mind if I use my old tea stained enamel mug?oh deary deary me NO, you must use a cup properly distritbuted by a cup distribution lady, and washed by a fully licensed soap and water operative.
can’t have you using something where you could possibly risk germs and possibly affect your health, or have the chance of the handle possibly coming away from the rest of the cup and possibly hurting you.edited cos i forgot smilies and wouldn’t want anyone to think i’m serious
. Dont worry, Im sure I have an old pair of latex gloves somewhere, that I got from the doctor when I had my piles pushed back in. 
Wheel Nut:
biggusdickusgb:
Wheel Nut:
I would love a brew, do you mind if I use my old tea stained enamel mug?oh deary deary me NO, you must use a cup properly distritbuted by a cup distribution lady, and washed by a fully licensed soap and water operative.
can’t have you using something where you could possibly risk germs and possibly affect your health, or have the chance of the handle possibly coming away from the rest of the cup and possibly hurting you. :lol: :lol: :lol:edited cos i forgot smilies and wouldn’t want anyone to think i’m serious
. Dont worry, Im sure I have an old pair of latex gloves somewhere, that I got from the doctor when I had my piles pushed back in.
Top banter in the Driver’s Room; TFFT ; )
I’m not covered to repair airlines , tool kits removed from vehicles, not covered to change a bulb either . Daft ain’t it buts how it is.
In reality I have a couple of spare bulbs to change them on the road. Plastic ties and ducktape to kink lines and move out of the way and reattach damaged leccy leads and repair casings with tape
However I have no faciltiy to change an airline so I can’t.It’s kink and move if need be and breakdown call out.
Hmmm…
On my MAN the hose at the cab ens is just a push fit on a ■■■■■■ - not even a clip to hold it on.
Stick the end in boiling water and push.