ADR Board for trailer

[dieseldave]

PaulNowak:
At the end of the day, they’re only flimsy bits of steel either painted or covered in sticky back plastic, which I doubt would last 60 seconds in a fire.

Hi Paul,

The specs I posted for the boards are directly quoted from ADR, but folks can make of it what they will.

Of course, the authorities may take a common sense approach, but who knows…?
I’d say that if your boss buys the boards from a legit supplier, then the boards will probably have been made to the required standard.

PaulNowak:
Might be a dumb question, but we didn’t cover any of the above on my ADR course.

I don’t know whose course you took, but if it’s any help, the part concerning the orange plates is usually covered on a Tuesday afternoon in the ‘packages’ module.

PaulNowak:
Let’s just say I had my boards down more last week than I have done in the past 12 months since passing the course.

Is that possibly because you’ve been carrying in excess of threshold and therefore subject to Regs a bit more often than you normally do?
If you’re carrying threshold or less, then there’s no need to display your plates and all the other rigmarole doesn’t apply, except the need for 1 X 2kg ADR compliant dry powder fire extinguisher.
Depending on the type of work that you do, the small load exemption threshold limits can seem to be quite generous, and then there are all the various other exemptions that do their best to keep you out of Regs.
It’s not a foregone conclusion that just because you have some dangerous goods on board, that an ADR trained driver is needed and the orange plates have to be displayed.

[wheel_nut]

It is quite surprising how many of these placard and labelling manufacturers will supply self adhesive kemler boards and diamond placards, even the big companies like Bayer and BASF hand these out, especially in the tank container market.

We used to carry a pack of these and write our own numbers on them. Non of which would last the 15 minutes as specified in my opinion.

[paulnowak]

dieseldave:

PaulNowak:
At the end of the day, they’re only flimsy bits of steel either painted or covered in sticky back plastic, which I doubt would last 60 seconds in a fire.

Hi Paul,

The specs I posted for the boards are directly quoted from ADR, but folks can make of it what they will.

Of course, the authorities may take a common sense approach, but who knows…?
I’d say that if your boss buys the boards from a legit supplier, then the boards will probably have been made to the required standard.

PaulNowak:
Might be a dumb question, but we didn’t cover any of the above on my ADR course.

I don’t know whose course you took, but if it’s any help, the part concerning the orange plates is usually covered on a Tuesday afternoon in the ‘packages’ module.

PaulNowak:
Let’s just say I had my boards down more last week than I have done in the past 12 months since passing the course.

Is that possibly because you’ve been carrying in excess of threshold and therefore subject to Regs a bit more often than you normally do?
If you’re carrying threshold or less, then there’s no need to display your plates and all the other rigmarole doesn’t apply, except the need for 1 X 2kg ADR compliant dry powder fire extinguisher.
Depending on the type of work that you do, the small load exemption threshold limits can seem to be quite generous, and then there are all the various other exemptions that do their best to keep you out of Regs.
It’s not a foregone conclusion that just because you have some dangerous goods on board, that an ADR trained driver is needed and the orange plates have to be displayed.

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[dieseldave]

PaulNowak:
PM sent

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[mikey_d]

I did my ADR cource about 7 months ago now and we were told about the correct size of plates / borders etc . I don’t recall being told about fixing methods /resisting fire for 15 mins etc tho . ( the training was with gatewen in Wrexham )
I doubt I will have to pull a trailer in the same circumstances any time soon ( brand new , collected from Lancaster , dropped at Ince to be loaded , then taken to our yard to be checked over fitted with proprietary ADR plate with 4 pop rivets I believe )
But in case I do I will fit a couple more chains with dog clips to my “tempoary plate” , that way I can suspend it from 4 corners off the trailer chassis/ bumper bar etc

So if it does go ■■■■ up all with be hunky dory

[dieseldave]

Mikey D:
I did my ADR cource about 7 months ago now and we were told about the correct size of plates / borders etc . I don’t recall being told about fixing methods /resisting fire for 15 mins etc tho . ( the training was with gatewen in Wrexham )

Hi Mikey D,
From what you’ve written, I’d say that the course covered the syllabus and exam requirements.

The rest of what’s been asked and answered is a little more involved than the ADR course covers.

Mikey D:
I doubt I will have to pull a trailer in the same circumstances any time soon ( brand new , collected from Lancaster , dropped at Ince to be loaded , then taken to our yard to be checked over fitted with proprietary ADR plate with 4 pop rivets I believe )
But in case I do I will fit a couple more chains with dog clips to my “tempoary plate” , that way I can suspend it from 4 corners off the trailer chassis/ bumper bar etc

So if it does go ■■■■ up all with be hunky dory

That just might work, because you appear to have ticked all the boxes, but it will ultimately depend on the opinion of an enforcement officer as to whether it’s acceptable.