ADR advice

NEW AND WANNABE DRIVERS (INTERACTIVE)
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Trucker Si:
Hi all, i’m new here. :slight_smile:

Hi Trucker Si,

Trucker Si:
I’m after some advice on an ADR course that i am thinking about doing in the next few months.

I’d really like to get into an ADR job if possible, it’s something i’d like to do, like petrol tanker or gas/oxygen cylinders but i’m abit worried that if i take the course i’d stuggle to find work as i’d have no experience doing ADR jobs.

roadrunner has written some very good advice above, and I can only agree with him.

If I were you, I’d save my money on the Tanker module, because you’re very unlikely to be offered any tanker work.
Unlikely doen’t mean ‘impossible,’ but in all honesty, it might as well mean the same thing. :frowning:

If you wish to get into the gas cylinder job for the likes of welding gas distributors or Calor Gas, then you’d only need to do the ADR modules called: Core, Packages and UN Class 2.
Advantage:
It’s cheaper than paying for a whole course.

Disadvantage
You can only carry gas in cylinders.

As an alternative, you could opt to take Core, Packages and Seven UN Classes (please see my post on Classes above,) which would cover you for all dangerous goods except Explosives (UN Class 1) and Radioactives (UN Class 7,) which are specialisms and therefore quite expensive.

If you give a clue as to your location, maybe I could offer you some pointers for work, or a couple of providers that might be cheaper.

Trucker Si:
The course is £500, i’d have to take a week off work to do it and am just worried that it’d just expire without me using it. (I did a Hiab course about 16months ago when i first got my licence and haven’t used it so am abit unsure).

I understand you caution, and I completely agree with you.
However, if you take the Core, Packages and Seven UN Classes option, you only need to be off the road for 3.5 days including the time need for your ADR exams. I’d expect this option to save you somewhere around £140 on what you’ve been quoted for the five-day course.

Please feel free to ask any other questions. :smiley: :smiley:

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roadrunner:
I have been doing ADR all this week with exams tomorrow, …

Hi roadrunner,

If you’re not sure about any of it… now’s the time to ask. :wink:

Good Luck for tomorrow!! :smiley:

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dieseldave:

Trucker Si:
Hi all, i’m new here. :slight_smile:

Hi Trucker Si,

roadrunner has written some very good advice above, and I can only agree with him.

If I were you, I’d save my money on the Tanker module, because you’re very unlikely to be offered any tanker work.
Unlikely doen’t mean ‘impossible,’ but in all honesty, it might as well mean the same thing. :frowning:

If you give a clue as to your location, maybe I could offer you some pointers for work, or a couple of providers that might be cheaper.

Trucker Si:
Please feel free to ask any other questions. :smiley: :smiley:

I’m in Norfolk, east anglia.

Thank you both for the information, it’s very much appreciated.

Makes you wonder how these drivers get these tanker jobs then as i see quite a few different companies about when i’m on the road.

It’s kinda put me off abit now by the sounds of it, could do class 1 instead if not but then i don’t really want long distance work all the time and i’d be expected to do that with a class 1 job.

Sorry if i sound negitive but i’m stuck in abit of a rut at the mo with a job that i don’t really enjoy doing. Should be grateful really in this current climate that i have a job.

Great site by the way.

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On the course i am on, one of the lads is ex- bayford “thrust” petrol remember them !!,he has some amusing anecdotes, one of the other lads worked for a firm transporting liquid nitrogen ,the ADR instructor himself used to transport hydrofluoric acid out of middlesborough its been an eye opener to say the least. :smiley:

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roadrunner:
On the course i am on, one of the lads is ex- bayford “thrust” petrol remember them !!,he has some amusing anecdotes, one of the other lads worked for a firm transporting liquid nitrogen ,the ADR instructor himself used to transport hydrofluoric acid out of middlesborough its been an eye opener to say the least. :smiley:

Hi roadrunner,

It seems that you’ve enjoyed the course, and there’s been a few good war stories too. :smiley:

I used to transport liquid CO2 from near Middlesbrough, but that’s not a patch on hydroflouric acid. :open_mouth:

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Am i right that i read somewhere that an ADR course counts towards 21 hours of CPC ■■

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Trucker Si:
Am i right that i read somewhere that an ADR course counts towards 21 hours of CPC ■■

yes.

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roadrunner:

Trucker Si:
Am i right that i read somewhere that an ADR course counts towards 21 hours of CPC ■■

yes.

Sorry roadrunner, but that’s not quite correct.

An ADR course can count towards DCPC hours depending on whether the ADR porvider has also registered with JAUPT as a DCPC provider. Not all ADR providers have done so, so getting DCPC hours on an ADR course NOT automatic.

Also, even if an ADR provider has registered etc, it’s not automatic that an ADR course will count for DCPC hours if the candidate chooses that it doesn’t.

:bulb: ADR and DCPC are two completely different things, and they come from different awarding bodies.

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Got a little question and it might be a bit off topic, I was reading through the thread with interest and read the quote below.

LJA:
Hey Ste,

I done my ADR in packages & tanks back in 2010 and it’s really very straight forward. Just enjoy it mate and I almost guarantee you will not fail! :wink:

All the best!

My query is about the tanks and packages bit. I’m starting a 5 day Adr course on the 20th and I know it covers all classes except 1&7. But does it cover tanks and packages (didn’t think to ask), did I have to specify or are these courses tanks and packaged as standard?

Any advice? Cheers.

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dieseldave:

roadrunner:

Trucker Si:
Am i right that i read somewhere that an ADR course counts towards 21 hours of CPC ■■

yes.

Sorry roadrunner, but that’s not quite correct.

An ADR course can count towards DCPC hours depending on whether the ADR porvider has also registered with JAUPT as a DCPC provider. Not all ADR providers have done so, so getting DCPC hours on an ADR course NOT automatic.

Also, even if an ADR provider has registered etc, it’s not automatic that an ADR course will count for DCPC hours if the candidate chooses that it doesn’t.

:bulb: ADR and DCPC are two completely different things, and they come from different awarding bodies.

apologies dave :blush: Mine was all inclusive even with the £60 registration fee.

I had read on here by a few posters that the ADR course was an “easy pass” and that no - one ever fails, well today one bloke on my course failed the group A module and he transports pesticides and fertilizer for a living, he has to resit it next friday.

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k21pilot:
Got a little question and it might be a bit off topic, I was reading through the thread with interest and read the quote below.

LJA:
Hey Ste,

I done my ADR in packages & tanks back in 2010 and it’s really very straight forward. Just enjoy it mate and I almost guarantee you will not fail! :wink:

All the best!

My query is about the tanks and packages bit. I’m starting a 5 day Adr course on the 20th and I know it covers all classes except 1&7. But does it cover tanks and packages (didn’t think to ask), did I have to specify or are these courses tanks and packaged as standard?

Any advice? Cheers.

Hi k21pilot,

Here’s how an ADR course works:

Everybody has to take the ‘core’ module.

Next, you choose EITHER tankers OR packages, OR both for how you wish to carry the ‘stuff.’

In other words, you can just do packages.
Or you could just do tankers.
Or you could do both tankers and packages.

If your company is paying, then take whatever they’re paying for.
If you’re paying, then… the tanker module is optional. :wink:

Then you choose which of the 9 Classes of ‘stuff’ you wish to carry.
Generally, most people choose Classes 2,3,4,5,6,8&9 (Please see Classes in my post above.)

For instance… if you were being sent by a gas cylinder delivery company (other tightwad employers are available) then you’d only be doing Core, Packages and just UN Class 2, cos that’s all they need for their work cos they don’t carry anything other than gas in cylinders.

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roadrunner:
I had read on here by a few posters that the ADR course was an “easy pass” and that no - one ever fails, well today one bloke on my course failed the group A module and he transports pesticides and fertilizer for a living, he has to resit it next friday.

Hi roadrunner,

It’s very easy to fail an ADR exam, and there are several options on how to achieve this:

1.) The candidate knows more than the instructor.
2.) The candidate belives those who say it’s easy, then switches off in class.
3.) The candidate is nervous of exams.
4.) The candidate makes a genuine error and puts the right answers in the wrong boxes when filling in the exam sheet.

The group “A” exam paper has 36 questions covering Classes 2,3,6&8.

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dieseldave:

k21pilot:
Got a little question and it might be a bit off topic, I was reading through the thread with interest and read the quote below.

LJA:
Hey Ste,

I done my ADR in packages & tanks back in 2010 and it’s really very straight forward. Just enjoy it mate and I almost guarantee you will not fail! :wink:

All the best!

My query is about the tanks and packages bit. I’m starting a 5 day Adr course on the 20th and I know it covers all classes except 1&7. But does it cover tanks and packages (didn’t think to ask), did I have to specify or are these courses tanks and packaged as standard?

Any advice? Cheers.

Hi k21pilot,

Here’s how an ADR course works:

Everybody has to take the ‘core’ module.

Next, you choose EITHER tankers OR packages, OR both for how you wish to carry the ‘stuff.’

In other words, you can just do packages.
Or you could just do tankers.
Or you could do both tankers and packages.

If your company is paying, then take whatever they’re paying for.
If you’re paying, then… the tanker module is optional. :wink:

Then you choose which of the 9 Classes of ‘stuff’ you wish to carry.
Generally, most people choose Classes 2,3,4,5,6,8&9 (Please see Classes in my post above.)

For instance… if you were being sent by a gas cylinder delivery company (other tightwad employers are available) then you’d only be doing Core, Packages and just UN Class 2, cos that’s all they need for their work cos they don’t carry anything other than gas in cylinders.

Thanks Dave, just called the Ritchies, my training provider (I’m self funding) and my course covers tanks and packages :stuck_out_tongue:

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k21pilot:
Thanks Dave, just called the Ritchies, my training provider (I’m self funding) and my course covers tanks and packages :stuck_out_tongue:

Hi k21pilot,

Ritchies have a good reputation in the dangerous goods training industry, so you’re already on a winner. :smiley:

If there’s anything on the course that you’re not sure about, then please shout up!! :smiley:

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dieseldave:

k21pilot:
Thanks Dave, just called the Ritchies, my training provider (I’m self funding) and my course covers tanks and packages :stuck_out_tongue:

Hi k21pilot,

Ritchies have a good reputation in the dangerous goods training industry, so you’re already on a winner. :smiley:

If there’s anything on the course that you’re not sure about, then please shout up!! :smiley:

Thanks a lot Dave, great to know you’ll be on hand:-)

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LJA:
Hey Ste,

I done my ADR in packages & tanks back in 2010 and it’s really very straight forward. Just enjoy it mate and I almost guarantee you will not fail! :wink:

All the best!

Lol I almost guarantee thats reassuring considering I am about to do my adr in a few days lol

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Started my course today,found it very interesting but a hell of a lot to take in .Think it must of bored one of the lads as he fell asleep and started snoring :open_mouth: .Well early night for me ans see what tomorrow holds ,the only thing is 8 hrs in a classroom is a bit much .