ADI DSA/Advanced accreditation & LGV/car training debate

ROG:

26 years an Lgv Trainer:
Well i guess those who just teach people to pass test can sleep at night…

I try to get my learners far above the test standard.
Just getting people to test standard is not enough in my opinion.
If You train to a higher standard the learner is far more prepared for the test.

That is not realistic in one week of about 16 to 20 hours training.

For an instructor to change a drivers permanent thinking process in one week would be a miracle :exclamation: - to set the driver on the right path towards that would be a more realistic view.

Your opinion Rog

I am talking about the learners that take the realistic attitude to what is recomended at an assessment.

When you get a few more years under your belt i may take you seriously ROG.

26 years an Lgv Trainer:

ROG:

26 years an Lgv Trainer:
Well i guess those who just teach people to pass test can sleep at night…

I try to get my learners far above the test standard.
Just getting people to test standard is not enough in my opinion.
If You train to a higher standard the learner is far more prepared for the test.

That is not realistic in one week of about 16 to 20 hours training.

For an instructor to change a drivers permanent thinking process in one week would be a miracle :exclamation: - to set the driver on the right path towards that would be a more realistic view.

Your opinion Rog

I am talking about the learners that take the realistic attitude to what is recomended at an assessment.

When you get a few more years under your belt i may take you seriously ROG.

I don’t follow your point here - are we talking about teaching someone to ‘UPGRADE THEIR DRIVING’ which takes months or longer or teaching someone to ‘PASS AN UPGRADE TEST’ which takes a week :question:

26 years an Lgv Trainer:

delboytwo:
Hi 26 years an Lgv Trainer

When i was thinking of taking my LGV class one I looked at the way you do with schools by the hour some of them said that there would do by the hour and some even quoted £65 per hour there said it would have to be a minimum of 4 hours and the average time spent driving is 20 hours.luckily for me my employer paid in the end.

My instructor said that he does not teach you to drive he teaches you to pass the test, he also said that you will never learn what you do as a truck driver in your training that come as you gain on road experience.

I would agree with that as i took my test in a W&D an then drove a artic, one month later and it was frighting for the first few nights but later it came to me.

when I took my C test had an examiner I asked him when should you take your C+E he said up to you but some examiners don’t like it there think you should have at least 6 months on road driving before you upgrade and would you believe it I had same examiner for my C+E test failed first passed second.

Del

Well i guess those who just teach people to pass test can sleep at night…

I try to get my learners far above the test standard.
Just getting people to test standard is not enough in my opinion.
If You train to a higher standard the learner is far more prepared for the test.

I have took a driving test, C test and my C+E all of the instructors only teach use to drive its the student that learns to drive and if there pass all well and good, i took 40 hours of lessons in my car and C I was lucky to have had 12 hours at the wheel and my C+E again I was lucky to have 14 hours.the instructors have two students with them and there share the instructors time while at the wheel.

Fare doe’s if you give more time to learn them above the standard, no all instructors do and that some times is the problem.

I personal think that there should be a minimum of training for your LGV licence of at least 30 hours cos I was not ready to pull trailer on the road as there handle quit different with a load on.

Del

delboytwo:
I personal think that there should be a minimum of training for your LGV licence of at least 30 hours cos I was not ready to pull trailer on the road as there handle quit different with a load on.

Del

Would the trainees be prepared to pay :question:

The two companies I worked for would NOT allow me to do extra training unless it was paid for - it was a case of - they paid for 0830 to 1630 so that is all you will do :exclamation:

All I could do was put as much in during that time as possible without overloading the trainees.

A lot still depends on the driving calibre & attitude of the trainee.