incedent involves incompetance where as an accident is an accident
dafpower:
incedent involves incompetance where as an accident is an accident
But surely every accident is due to incompetence?
Kid falls off a skate board as they are not competent to ride it well.
Every accident happens, because someone somewhere has messed up. Humans make mistakes all the time.
You fall down the stairs because you didn’t give enough attention to what you were doing.
Etc
Snudger:
“No accidents or incidents to report” is the oft-reported radio traffic news update, which to me implies an accident is indeed some sort of collision involving a vehicle and some damage, whereas perhaps an incident could be something like a diesel spill, livestock on the road, a landslip etc. - in other words, an accident waiting to happen! I don’t think suicide is an accident.
No need of a Vehicle. Running against a Lamp Post is also an Accident.
bazza123:
dafpower:
incedent involves incompetance where as an accident is an accidentBut surely every accident is due to incompetence?
Kid falls off a skate board as they are not competent to ride it well.
Every accident happens, because someone somewhere has messed up. Humans make mistakes all the time.
You fall down the stairs because you didn’t give enough attention to what you were doing.
Etc
You could have an Accident due to sudden Black Ice or Tyre blow out.
You get your mistress pregnant…this is an accident.
your wife finds out…this could lead to an incident.
I’m wondering if the op is referring to the VMS messages on the motorway, so I’ll explain them.
When we get called from a member of the public about anything happening on the motorway that could affect the live lane running, we set signals for 50’s and “INCIDENT” on the message sign.
There are a couple of exceptions, those are for reported “ANIMALS” & “PEDESTRIANS” this could mean signals and VMS set on both c/ways in the area.
If it’s a RTC (Road Traffic Collision) or Debris, Obstruction, Fire etc. Then once the exact location has been confirmed by a reputable source (Police Officer, HATO,CCTV etc) the signs will be adjusted to the correct description, with any lane closures if they are confirmed as still being needed (sometimes vehicles have moved to the H/S, left the scene, or even nothing found, in which case the signals would be cleared)
The exception to this rule is if a Pedestrian has jumped from, or reported as about to jump from a bridge, signals and VMS are set to “INCIDENT” and not “PEDESTRIAN”
So to summarise, It’s “INCIDENT” until confirmed then it becomes more descriptive like “ACCIDENT” or “DEBRIS” etc.
(Please note; I will not get into an argument about signals being right/wrong/left on/ useless/good/bad/ indifferent)
The real Biffo:
I’m wondering if the op is referring to the VMS messages on the motorway, so I’ll explain them.When we get called from a member of the public about anything happening on the motorway that could affect the live lane running, we set signals for 50’s and “INCIDENT” on the message sign.
There are a couple of exceptions, those are for reported “ANIMALS” & “PEDESTRIANS” this could mean signals and VMS set on both c/ways in the area.
If it’s a RTC (Road Traffic Collision) or Debris, Obstruction, Fire etc. Then once the exact location has been confirmed by a reputable source (Police Officer, HATO,CCTV etc) the signs will be adjusted to the correct description, with any lane closures if they are confirmed as still being needed (sometimes vehicles have moved to the H/S, left he scene, or even nothing found, in which case the signals would be cleared)
The exception to this rule is if a Pedestrian has jumped from, or reported as about to jump from a bridge, signals and VMS are set to “INCIDENT” and not “PEDESTRIAN”So to summarise, It’s “INCIDENT” until confirmed then it becomes more descriptive like “ACCIDENT” or “DEBRIS” etc.
(Please note; I will not get into an argument about signals being right/wrong/left on/ useless/good/bad/ indifferent)
On the Underground, it’s “passenger action” I believe…
The real Biffo:
I’m wondering if the op is referring to the VMS messages on the motorway, so I’ll explain them.When we get called from a member of the public about anything happening on the motorway that could affect the live lane running, we set signals for 50’s and “INCIDENT” on the message sign.
There are a couple of exceptions, those are for reported “ANIMALS” & “PEDESTRIANS” this could mean signals and VMS set on both c/ways in the area.
If it’s a RTC (Road Traffic Collision) or Debris, Obstruction, Fire etc. Then once the exact location has been confirmed by a reputable source (Police Officer, HATO,CCTV etc) the signs will be adjusted to the correct description, with any lane closures if they are confirmed as still being needed (sometimes vehicles have moved to the H/S, left he scene, or even nothing found, in which case the signals would be cleared)
The exception to this rule is if a Pedestrian has jumped from, or reported as about to jump from a bridge, signals and VMS are set to “INCIDENT” and not “PEDESTRIAN”So to summarise, It’s “INCIDENT” until confirmed then it becomes more descriptive like “ACCIDENT” or “DEBRIS” etc.
(Please note; I will not get into an argument about signals being right/wrong/left on/ useless/good/bad/ indifferent)
So what’s an Elf then?
Coogy:
So what’s an Elf then?
Possibly a very small pedestrian with an Irish accent, usually up to mischief… 
An accident is something that is not meant to happen. An incident was instigated to happen. Police deal with an incident then somebody jumped or lay down in the road or done something deliberate. I was caught up in germany tonight. The online maps said incident…it was roadworks.