Jameshub:
HiI hear you but my confidence is pretty low at the moment after losing my business and I need to earn money quickly…knowing my luck someone will find out.
Cheers for comments though
You’ll be fine. Do what Milodon says and then just turn back up in Norway with it and start work, no one will ask a thing. You’ll be a British person turning up with a British CPC and possibly a British licence, there would be absolutely nothing suspicious about that at all.
I sense a little bit of sarcasm there. 
I don’t think so peterm, it would be just business as usual, James is overthinking this and should just get on with it because, like hutpik said in the other thread, winter is coming 
milodon:
I don’t think so peterm, it would be just business as usual, James is overthinking this and should just get on with it because, like hutpik said in the other thread, winter is coming
I hear you, I am just trying to make sure I don’t waste money and time learning something which when I present the licence etc to Norway they turn round and say “nope this doesn’t work and can’t be used to find work”
Sorry if I’m been nosey here.
What’s the wages like in Norway?
Iv spent a lot of time in Norway when I was in the forces.
I done 5 trips for 4 months at a time jan-April.
I found everything very very very expensive to the pound.
Was just curious to know what a basic truckers wage is out there.
Themoocher:
Sorry if I’m been nosey here.What’s the wages like in Norway?
Iv spent a lot of time in Norway when I was in the forces.
I done 5 trips for 4 months at a time jan-April.I found everything very very very expensive to the pound.
Was just curious to know what a basic truckers wage is out there.
Don’t drink (or brew your own) and learn to fish…then it isn’t too expensive
I Think this is a question that is difficult to answer in any country.What do you base the answer on,a direct comparison or do you take into account all the other factors such as,cost of food,housing,transport etc.Then factor in such things as what quality of Health care is there,what is the expected pension,social services,unemployment\sickness benefits.
Up here in Lappland fruit and veg are twice the price i paid in Holland but venison and fish are cheap[or you hunt and fish yourself].
Alkohol is very expensive[bottle whisky £30]But then i paid £40,000 for my cottage with 5 Acres of land and a river.And the ‘‘quality of life’’[no traffic,less people,ergo less friction,and free nature all round]also has a value.
Jameshub:
I hear you, I am just trying to make sure I don’t waste money and time learning something which when I present the licence etc to Norway they turn round and say “nope this doesn’t work and can’t be used to find work”
yes I think the safe bet would be to do nothing and go nowhere.
milodon:
Jameshub:
I hear you, I am just trying to make sure I don’t waste money and time learning something which when I present the licence etc to Norway they turn round and say “nope this doesn’t work and can’t be used to find work”yes I think the safe bet would be to do nothing and go nowhere.
you missed my point, but you’re entitled to you opinion
sorry, don’t know what the answer is that you are waiting for.
milodon:
sorry, don’t know what the answer is that you are waiting for.
I’m after people advise and opinions from an industry I am not familiar with, that is what forums are mainly used for…
Similar to when I stripped down and re-build my Land Rover, some things I didn’t know so I asked on a forum.
Jameshub:
you missed my point, but you’re entitled to you opinion
I wouldn’t lose a moments sleep over your CPC dilemma, its a complete non-issue. As Milodon says further up, the EU and associate countries such as Norway and Switzerland are full of non native drivers who don’t speak the language or don’t speak it to a high enough level to complete any sort of formal educational/certification etc. If your worry was actually enforced, the vast majority of Poles in the UK for example would suddenly be out of work five years from their arrival and unable to go back to Poland to renew their CPC, which of course isn’t the case.
The biggest problem you may have would be your lack of experience once you do get all the licences and CPC, if Norway is anything like the UK at all, they’ll all be screaming out for drivers but they’ll want them handed to them on a silver platter complete with 2+ years experience and all that. Hopefully that won’t be such a big issue in Norway and perhaps you’ve been round some firms to find out if they’d take you on afterwards? But seriously, don’t worry about the CPC nonsense.
No one in Britain is going to check if you’ve been living in the country for x amount of days per year and once its issued in Britain, all other EU countries and others such as Norway have to accept it. Its a legal document valid in all subscribing countries to the same value as their own domestically issued equivalent.
robinhood_1984:
Jameshub:
you missed my point, but you’re entitled to you opinionI wouldn’t lose a moments sleep over your CPC dilemma, its a complete non-issue. As Milodon says further up, the EU and associate countries such as Norway and Switzerland are full of non native drivers who don’t speak the language or don’t speak it to a high enough level to complete any sort of formal educational/certification etc. If your worry was actually enforced, the vast majority of Poles in the UK for example would suddenly be out of work five years from their arrival and unable to go back to Poland to renew their CPC, which of course isn’t the case.
The biggest problem you may have would be your lack of experience once you do get all the licences and CPC, if Norway is anything like the UK at all, they’ll all be screaming out for drivers but they’ll want them handed to them on a silver platter complete with 2+ years experience and all that. Hopefully that won’t be such a big issue in Norway and perhaps you’ve been round some firms to find out if they’d take you on afterwards? But seriously, don’t worry about the CPC nonsense.
No one in Britain is going to check if you’ve been living in the country for x amount of days per year and once its issued in Britain, all other EU countries and others such as Norway have to accept it. Its a legal document valid in all subscribing countries to the same value as their own domestically issued equivalent.
so basically, come back from Norway to UK, do CPC, Class 2 and then Class 1…then go back to Norway and do ANY driving job to get experience - sounds like good advice and appreciated
Excellent diary, Really enjoy reading these i look forward to more
I’m after learning a language to help me in possible future international jobs, is there one in particular that is most useful, obviously it depends where i end up working, but wondering if there is a universal one?
chainmailguy:
Excellent diary, Really enjoy reading these i look forward to moreI’m after learning a language to help me in possible future international jobs, is there one in particular that is most useful, obviously it depends where i end up working, but wondering if there is a universal one?
Norwegian as its similar to Danish and Swedish, so basically 3 in 1… I’m trying but it isn’t easy
Jameshub:
chainmailguy:
Excellent diary, Really enjoy reading these i look forward to moreI’m after learning a language to help me in possible future international jobs, is there one in particular that is most useful, obviously it depends where i end up working, but wondering if there is a universal one?
Norwegian as its similar to Danish and Swedish, so basically 3 in 1… I’m trying but it isn’t easy
yeah i’m interested in learning norsk/dansk but i cant find any rosetta stone esq tools to help teach me, can you recommend anything?
chainmailguy:
Jameshub:
chainmailguy:
Excellent diary, Really enjoy reading these i look forward to moreI’m after learning a language to help me in possible future international jobs, is there one in particular that is most useful, obviously it depends where i end up working, but wondering if there is a universal one?
Norwegian as its similar to Danish and Swedish, so basically 3 in 1… I’m trying but it isn’t easy
yeah i’m interested in learning norsk/dansk but i cant find any rosetta stone esq tools to help teach me, can you recommend anything?
I’m using this book and CD - Norsk pa 123 and the website is www.norskpa123.cappelendamm.no
Jameshub:
chainmailguy:
Jameshub:
chainmailguy:
Excellent diary, Really enjoy reading these i look forward to moreI’m after learning a language to help me in possible future international jobs, is there one in particular that is most useful, obviously it depends where i end up working, but wondering if there is a universal one?
Norwegian as its similar to Danish and Swedish, so basically 3 in 1… I’m trying but it isn’t easy
yeah i’m interested in learning norsk/dansk but i cant find any rosetta stone esq tools to help teach me, can you recommend anything?
I’m using this book and CD - Norsk pa 123 and the website is norskpa123.cappelendamm.no
nice one thanks, i’ll have a proper gander later, thanks again
This is a good book available at Waterstones: Norwegian Verbs & Essential Grammar by Louis Janus.
Gotta remember that language is a bit like a time bomb… You wait and wait and wait and not much happens then all of a sudden BANG!! Something just clicks in your brain… Once you’ve mastered the basics it’s almost a case of teaching yourself in the same way that you learned to speak English as a child, you just pick up more and more.
The hardest thing in Scandinavia is to push yourself to speak the local language as the majority of the locals speak good English. I felt much more comfortable speaking to the older generation over 60 who weren’t so proficient in English, it made me really dig down deep and find a way of explaining things without being embarrased by their level of English.
The same thing happened to me in Indonesia, after living in Malaysia for 3 years or so I only knew a few basic expressions and how to count etc. but after arriving in Indonesia I discovered the language is virtually the same but outside of the big cities not many people speak English at all. Within a few months I could speak Indonesian because I had no other other choice and a lot of it was already subconsciously in my head from Malaysia.
Kinda strange because I hated languages at school. When I was about 11 I ran away and hid in a farmer’s field during a French lesson because I was as thick as ■■■■ and all the other kids were taking the ■■■■ out of me. I had the last laugh though because I had to do extra French homework and within a year I ■■■■■■ all over them at exam time.
The point I’m trying to make is it takes time, so don’t give up. Just jot the odd random word down on a notepad here and there. Put the foreign word in Red ink and the English equivalent next to it in Blue. For some reason that works for me but everyone is different. In my opinion reading and writing are more important than speaking to begin with as it teaches you the basic mechanics of the language. Good Luck.
I really hope to get another diary up soon but it might not be from Norway. After the boss in Trondheim turned out to be a real Jekyl & Hyde and totally screwed me over when it came time to square up I went hunting for other jobs but the timing was all wrong as a lot of Norwegian companies are having Summer holidays and I haven’t heard anything back yet.
I have been offered 2 jobs doing hiab work and machinery installations/wide loads etc. in Copenhagen and as the language isn’t a million miles away from Norwegian I’m certainly considering it. I’m supposed to get paid my “balance” from Sir. Olav Shaft-a-lot in Trondheim tomorrow as the dirty git holds your money for nearly 3 weeks before paying out. However, I’m not holding my breath after some of the stunts he’s tried to pull on me and some of his other drivers.
Such a shame because it was actually a really nice company to work for, probably the best job I’ve ever had until it came time to be paid and then things went South, FAST! 
So it’s looking like a Danish pastry, the little mermaid, a Carlsberg or 10 and a big Scania might be featuring in my next diary but time will tell.
Jameshub:
so basically, come back from Norway to UK, do CPC, Class 2 and then Class 1…then go back to Norway and do ANY driving job to get experience - sounds like good advice and appreciated
Yes mate. First though, before spending any of your money, I’d go around loads of local firms and see what your job prospects are as a would be newly qualified driver and take it from there.
