A religion question for Robroy,but will he give me a straigh

Winseer:
The “Unrepentant” seem to think that God owes them a favour, - or he cannot possibly exist…

Ask yourself WHY you’re owed anything at all?

Is that aimed at anyone in particular? Or are you using “you” to mean anyone?

Winseer:
Ask not what God’s Universe can do for you, but what You can do for God’s wider Universe, of which you are all part - like it or not.

:laughing: I like you, you’re funny. Considering all gods are ficitional, if forced to choose one, I’d choose one that was a bit cooler than beardy-man-on-a-cloud-who-advocates-child-sacrifice-and-subjugating-women-to-second-class-citizens. I’d probably pick Thoth, I always thought he was pretty cool, with that big Ibis head, and being the God of writing and science and knowledge etc

Winseer:
The only people that can manage without God in the long run - are those who can bring themselves back from the dead.
For the rest of us? - That bus ‘to the place that’s the best’ leaves at your life’s end. Be there - or be square.

Speaking of busses, we’ve met before, you were that Loony-on-the-bus I encountered in 1978 weren’t you ?

Winseer:
Chances are, you cannot fly an aircraft, nor even know someone well that can.

That doesn’t mean that “Man can’t fly” or “Flight is impossible” - just because you, personally - have never experienced “having a pilot’s licence” in your life.

Who is your “Dealer”? That’s some top notch gear he’s sourcing for you.

Why are you posting this

When clearly this is more your thing?
youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0

Well, the “Red Pill - doesn’t do anything at all” - applies to yourself, rather than me, who can be sold to - surely? :smiley: :stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t remember my mum ever giving me blue pills, in case you wondered why I assume they must be “Red”…

Concidentally, the Chess Piece “Knight” has a unique move that allows it to pass through over pieces, thus disobeying the laws of physics…

After the Queen piece, arguably the easiest piece to achieve a checkmate with…
Preserve your knights!

I’m just on a different frequency, that’s all.

I’m no more “Mad” than a person who listens to Magic FM instead of Classic FM.

Except, in my case I happen to like both which makes me “Bi-Radioable” rather than “Bi Polar”, or “Bi-cester”… Right? :grimacing:

For Those In The Know:

One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small
And the ones that mother gives you
Don’t do anything at all
Go ask Alice
When she’s ten feet tall

And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you’re going to fall
Tell 'em a hookah-smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call
Call Alice
When she was just small

When the men on the chessboard
Get up and tell you where to go
And you’ve just had some kind of mushroom
And your mind is moving low
Go ask Alice
I think she’ll know

When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen’s off with her head
Remember what the dormouse said
Feed your head
Feed your head

Zac_A:

Winseer:
The “Unrepentant” seem to think that God owes them a favour, - or he cannot possibly exist…

Ask yourself WHY you’re owed anything at all?

Is that aimed at anyone in particular? Or are you using “you” to mean anyone?

Winseer:
Ask not what God’s Universe can do for you, but what You can do for God’s wider Universe, of which you are all part - like it or not.

:laughing: I like you, you’re funny. Considering all gods are ficitional, if forced to choose one, I’d choose one that was a bit cooler than beardy-man-on-a-cloud-who-advocates-child-sacrifice-and-subjugating-women-to-second-class-citizens. I’d probably pick Thoth, I always thought he was pretty cool, with that big Ibis head, and being the God of writing and science and knowledge etc

Winseer:
The only people that can manage without God in the long run - are those who can bring themselves back from the dead.
For the rest of us? - That bus ‘to the place that’s the best’ leaves at your life’s end. Be there - or be square.

Speaking of busses, we’ve met before, you were that Loony-on-the-bus I encountered in 1978 weren’t you ?

Winseer:
Chances are, you cannot fly an aircraft, nor even know someone well that can.

That doesn’t mean that “Man can’t fly” or “Flight is impossible” - just because you, personally - have never experienced “having a pilot’s licence” in your life.

Who is your “Dealer”? That’s some top notch gear he’s sourcing for you.

Why are you posting this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRFo72wuU6w
When clearly this is more your thing?
youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0

Death is fictional too, don’t forget. THere’s no “Grim Reaper” figure going around in a black cloak and scythe…

But that doesn’t mean you’re not gonna die now, because you “don’t believe in Death”…

Why is God, or belief in God any different?
“Not believing” - doesn’t stop you being destroyed when your time comes for judgement, and “Believing” - doesn’t guarantee one a place in Heaven neither.
It’s a brutal universe out there.

Do you realize that if you die without issue, and then get cremated - your DNA is gone forever, totally destroyed. Your effect on the future - can only be zero.

Have an afterlife sytem though?

Is there anyone on here who has never heard of say, Rameses the Great, Tutahkamun, or the Biblical character Joseph?

All three have in common - that they were made into mummies.
That the Mummy of Joseph - has never been found - does that mean he never existed?
For those who are cremated - it could be argued that you “never existed” by the time the ashes are cold in the retort grate the same afternoon as the funeral…

Why are people so keen to destroy themselves, and be forgotten as they are?

Winseer:
Well, the “Red Pill - doesn’t do anything at all” - applies to yourself, rather than me, who can be sold to - surely? :smiley: :stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t remember my mum ever giving me blue pills, in case you wondered why I assume they must be “Red”…

Concidentally, the Chess Piece “Knight” has a unique move that allows it to pass through over pieces, thus disobeying the laws of physics…

After the Queen piece, arguably the easiest piece to achieve a checkmate with…
Preserve your knights!

See, this only makes sense to your wacko community of Conspiracy Theorists and God-botherers, whose narratives read like the ramblings of a drugged-up hippy, hence the Jefferson Airplane video.

To we rational people, you’re just making references to movies and novels as if they were real life.

Winseer:
Death is fictional too, don’t forget. THere’s no “Grim Reaper” figure going around in a black cloak and scythe…

But that doesn’t mean you’re not gonna die now, because you “don’t believe in Death”…

Is it actually mushroom-season or do you have some left over from last autumn? You’re like the characters from “The Pardoner’s Tale” in Canterbury Tales, who set out to kill death (the black-clothed scythe-carrying character) but (much like yourself) cannot distinguish fact from fiction.

Winseer:
Why is God, or belief in God any different?
“Not believing” - doesn’t stop you being destroyed when your time comes for judgement, and “Believing” - doesn’t guarantee one a place in Heaven neither.
It’s a brutal universe out there.

Yes but none of that nonsense applies when you’re rational

Winseer:
Do you realize that if you die without issue, and then get cremated - your DNA is gone forever, totally destroyed. Your effect on the future - can only be zero.

Have an afterlife sytem though?

Is there anyone on here who has never heard of say, Rameses the Great, Tutahkamun, or the Biblical character Joseph?

All three have in common - that they were made into mummies.
That the Mummy of Joseph - has never been found - does that mean he never existed?
For those who are cremated - it could be argued that you “never existed” by the time the ashes are cold in the retort grate the same afternoon as the funeral…

Why are people so keen to destroy themselves, and be forgotten as they are?

So are you comparing yourself to Rameses et al? Your delusional concerns about an “afterlife” don’t apply to me, I have two children, both are equally as rational and scientific as I am and find delusional God-botherers to be as amusing as I do.

Rational Science - doesn’t stop people doing stupid things that lead directly to their own deaths…

“Faith” can make people perform wonders, and also step aside those things that would otherwise harm them.

Instead of Science thinking if it could do something, maybe it should stop a moment - and consider if it SHOULD do something.

I have a lot of faith in “Science” as this field compromises the same laws of the Universe - whether or not one believes that those “Laws” were put there BY God, or they just spontaneously appeared for no reason whatsover, other than “Random Chance”…

I have little faith in the type of scienTIST however - those who’ve compromised their profession (if atheist) or their souls (if spiritual) by taking money to find results that lead to a conclusional agenda the powers-that-be (a.k.a. Deep State) will back all the way.

The Space programme was brought to an abrupt halt following the Challenger disaster in 1986.

It is now TWO generations later - and we’ve yet to:-

(1) Build an orbital space station that ordinary people can live and work on
(2) Build a moonbase that ordinary people can live and work on
(3) Have a joint-space programme under international treaty, instead of “impossible-to-enforce” so-called “International Law”.

IF we find out in the near future that say, an Asteroid is going to wipe out this planet - then as it stands, we’ve got no way of evacuating this planet.
Science - wastes it’s time on the Hubris of thinking that they can solve all this planet’s problems, whilst not even being able to preserve this planet’s entire existance - at threat from without rather than from Humanity living upon it presently.

There doesn’t seem to be much research going into “living undergound for a year” - which might be necessary, should a star as close as say, Arcturus “supernova” within the next century or so…

To conduct science research - a plentiful supply of cheap electricity is essential!

The Green Cause - by taking electricity to an all time high price, globally - puts it’s own salvation out-of-reach.
Who’s going to conduct electricity-hungry R&D programmes as it stands?

To the victor - the spoils.

The future belongs to Government-disconnected corporations around the world.
If that cooporation doesn’t rely on “government contracts” to stay afloat, then more power to them!

Apple Inc? - Nope. They’ve lied to the public too much already, and are compromised BY big government.
Tesla Inc? - I’ve already posted at length about Tesla being about BATTERY DEVELOPMENT rather than “That Car”…

Necessity is the mother of invention:
If it were not for Elecriticity being the high price it is, there might not be the sheer effort being put into developing a revolutionary type of battery - coming soon, I have no doubt.

Notice too, that it isn’t “Christians” who believe in this “Electric Jesus” concept.

I suspect that the first “World President” - will be someone endorsed by “Electric Jesus” however.

Forget the established “Church” in all this:

There’s an awful lot of things the world’s clergy SHOULD be doing - but play no part in.
There’s also a lot of “Tolerance” from organized religion, including for things like Devil Worship, demonology, and other petty evil - that I’m not surprised even the Atheist crowd - steer well clear of!. :open_mouth:

Thank goodness TN is so tolerant: just think how many people you could be upsetting if your weren’t here amongst people who are aware of just how much help you need.

Hint: you might want to try shorter posts if you want people to actually read them, most of us have things to do in our days.

So are you comparing yourself to Rameses et al? Your delusional concerns about an “afterlife” don’t apply to me, I have two children, both are equally as rational and scientific as I am and find delusional God-botherers to be as amusing as I do.

The comparison I make here is about “Making a mark”, rather than just being ashes in a grate in a few short years time.

Rameses didn’t really make much of a mark, as people still think he’s the pharaoh of the Bible, mentioned by “Title” rather than “Name” in the book of Exodus.

Personally, I don’t believe this pharaoh has any connection to Rameses other than the city of “Rameses” which is like comparing “Henry VIII” to Clement Freud’s Dog…"

The concept of “God Botherer” is alien to me, as I too - wouldn’t be any more susceptible to it than you are.

One thing I think we can agree on however, is the concept of “chasing immortality - via our offspring”.

Dying without issue, AND having achieved nothing at all in one’s life - is the eternal damnation the ancient Egyptians spend their entire lives trying to avoid “The Second Death” concept.

The fact that we have relics with handy name tags on them - is merely an attempt by the ancient Egyptians to “Preserve the name”.
The “Deeds” though? - As likely government propaganda of the day as ever.
Nothing much seems to change, in that regard.

If you don’t remember being dead in a past life, it is unlikely that you’ll remember being alive now in a future time as well.

There’s no difference to the onlooker - between someone being “Dead” and merely "departed on a journey from which they will never return.

People don’t really want “Immortality” as such - they perhaps seek a perpetuation of THIS life.
If THIS life isn’t so hot though? - Chances are you’re not as interested in immortality at ALL.

The chasers - tend to be the wealthy elites.
The vast majority of us - expect to be put in a cardboard box, burned down to bits of bone, and then ground into powder at the end of our “current” life.
“Legacy” - or lack thereof - makes all the difference to the future. Kids are part of that legacy, but deeds can be too…

Do you believe in your own life?

It would be a miserable self-loathing git indeed to “find nothing within” whilst we inhabit this “vehicle of flesh, fluids, and bone” - for our proberbial threescore and ten…

Zac_A:
Thank goodness TN is so tolerant: just think how many people you could be upsetting if your weren’t here amongst people who are aware of just how much help you need.

Hint: you might want to try shorter posts if you want people to actually read them, most of us have things to do in our days.

I post for legacy purposes - these posts will likely still be here as long as the internet exists.

Once people called “Writers” did the same, and their works written down were called “Books”…

Winseer:
I post for legacy purposes - these posts will likely still be here as long as the internet exists.

Wow! Your posts are intended to be an historic legacy to the world? What would be another way of saying “delusions of grandeur”?
The day I seeTN posts being archived here: archive.org/ I’ll take your comments as not being quite so insane as they currently look

Winseer:
Once people called “Writers” did the same, and their works written down were called “Books”…

Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Words still being written down even 5,400 years after the Sumerians kicked it all off
waterstones.com/
foyles.co.uk/
barnesandnoble.com/
wordery.com/
hive.co.uk/

youtu.be/Od6hY_50Dh0

youtu.be/on-y9Pv-CJA

as much as i love that track rob i think the above sum’s it all mate… :sunglasses: :laughing:

m.a.n rules:
https://youtu.be/on-y9Pv-CJA

as much as i love that track rob i think the above sum’s it all mate… :sunglasses: :laughing:

Nah this one beats it. :smiley:
youtu.be/hnzHtm1jhL4

Zac_A:

Winseer:
I post for legacy purposes - these posts will likely still be here as long as the internet exists.

Wow! Your posts are intended to be an historic legacy to the world? What would be another way of saying “delusions of grandeur”?
The day I seeTN posts being archived here: archive.org/ I’ll take your comments as not being quite so insane as they currently look

Winseer:
Once people called “Writers” did the same, and their works written down were called “Books”…

Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Words still being written down even 5,400 years after the Sumerians kicked it all off
waterstones.com/
foyles.co.uk/
barnesandnoble.com/
wordery.com/
hive.co.uk/

Oh FFS…

Google my name, and you’ll find my posts.

Google any lines from any mainstream recently-published book though?
I suggest getting access to “paywall” stuff to read - isn’t anywhere near as easy.

People don’t remember “Paid for” stuff as easily as they remember “Free Stuff”.

It is impossible these days to rise to the top of humanity based on any of the millions of human desires alone.

There will always be someone who’ll hate you, even if you gave them a million, even if you cured their cancer, even if you have got ten degrees, and pay all your workforce triple the minimum wage for putting out the trash…

Humanity’s attitude to humanity as it stands - is the problem, and not the solution.

If we don’t wise-up in time, natural die-back is inevitable.

Give a world leader two choices:

Enrich yourself, and kill a thousand people
OR
Deprive yourself, and save a million people

They will ALWAYS choose the (a) option, with those who apparently choose (b) being quickly removed, should they ever be able to fluke their way into power.

robroy:

m.a.n rules:
https://youtu.be/on-y9Pv-CJA

as much as i love that track rob i think the above sum’s it all mate… :sunglasses: :laughing:

Nah this one beats it. :smiley:
youtu.be/hnzHtm1jhL4

ooh, i could write a list of those who the mod’s should take away… :imp: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

m.a.n rules:

robroy:

m.a.n rules:
https://youtu.be/on-y9Pv-CJA

as much as i love that track rob i think the above sum’s it all mate… :sunglasses: :laughing:

Nah this one beats it. :smiley:
youtu.be/hnzHtm1jhL4

ooh, i could write a list of those who the mod’s should take away… :imp: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Or judging by his last post,.the title of this says it all. :smiley:
youtu.be/2B2Sc2G_5ZA

You have more determination than me,Winseer,I tried to evangelise on here but I had to give up.
My mission is over
youtu.be/MfdbcG0BTSk

Sploom:
You have more determination than me,Winseer,I tried to evangelise on here but I had to give up.
My mission is over
youtu.be/MfdbcG0BTSk

I’m not trying to evangelize. I’m only in print as an author of technical manuals, that’s all.

“How to” books for those who want info on “how to”. That’s it.

My hope and dream is Mankind ascending to the stars.
That the “Green New Deal” has discarded that, and replaced “reaching for the Heavens” with “Reaching inward for the Beast” - maroons us upon this planet alongside the “Fallen” - until a new heaven and Earth can be reached with help from above.
We’re not capable nor qualified to do it ourselves, as it stands.

Never before in history has there been so much opposition to “What’s good and right” from those who don’t even know the difference between Good and Evil, nor believe in the existance of either as well, so it seems…

This atheist doctrin of “There’s no Good and Evil - just the consequences of one’s actions” - is what permits the high and mighty 1% to obliterate the rest of the world for as little as their own amusement, when they are taking a breather from world ■■■■■■■■■■.

There’s to be no sitting on the fence permitted any longer - in these dark, and last-day times we live in.

Read more, engage less - would be my advice to anyone who’s simply not getting through.
You need not give up your last reserved place on the proverbial “titanic lifeboat” for another.
No one else - wants to take it, after all.
Make sure you’ve cast off before others do want to take it, I’d strongly suggest.
We’ve already got millions of people around the world pretending to be the opposite gender for personal gain and advantage…