Andrejs:
Who can check i was 45 hours in truck.or not??legaly or not but if you stop at aire in FRANCE,AND you can see plenty d4ivers who stop for 45 hours
That’s why I asked. I know this is probably the most ignored piece of drivers hours regulations, so I was wondering how many people stuck to it. Or how many employers ignore it to avoid the expense.
so if you get out of truck and sleep on grass verge at side of it that’s OK
If that’s your choice, yes. the regulations don’t say where you can take your rest, only that you can’t take a full weekly rest in a vehicle.
They don’t say you can’t, they just don’t say you can either, neither do they say, if you shag your Missus when you get home on a 9hr daily rest, its not classed as a rest period.
sayersy:
Just wondering how many international trampers book into a hotel for their full weekly rests, as only a daily rest and a reduced weekly rest can be taken in a vehicle.
correct! but now ones arsed! take a bivvy, four rods, reels and fish for free all over France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Belgium and holland! stupid rule I agree BUT one day it will happen! CAB HOTEL anyone?
NewLad:
They don’t say you can’t, they just don’t say you can either, neither do they say, if you shag your Missus when you get home on a 9hr daily rest, its not classed as a rest period.
Nah mate, that’s classed as “other work” so make sure you do a manual entry!!
NewLad:
They don’t say you can’t, they just don’t say you can either, neither do they say, if you shag your Missus when you get home on a 9hr daily rest, its not classed as a rest period.
Nah mate, that’s classed as “other work” so make sure you do a manual entry!!
NewLad:
They don’t say you can’t, they just don’t say you can either, neither do they say, if you shag your Missus when you get home on a 9hr daily rest, its not classed as a rest period.
Nah mate, that’s classed as “other work” so make sure you do a manual entry!!
I thought that was manual entry
It’s the only time you can dump your load while still on break.
NewLad:
They don’t say you can’t, they just don’t say you can either, neither do they say, if you shag your Missus when you get home on a 9hr daily rest, its not classed as a rest period.
Nah mate, that’s classed as “other work” so make sure you do a manual entry!!
I thought that was manual entry
It’s the only time you can dump your load while still on break.
NewLad:
They don’t say you can’t, they just don’t say you can either, neither do they say, if you shag your Missus when you get home on a 9hr daily rest, its not classed as a rest period.
That not really correct as an example, a more accurate example would be,
If you shag your missus during a reduced weekly rest, it will not be considered as a weekly rest period.
The fact they’ve specifically singled out reduced weekly rest, and not mentioned full weekly rest or just said weekly rest periods full or reduced. It could be that the regulations were originally written to exclude drivers from taking a full weekly in their cab, or it was a typo that was missed when it was put into place.
The fact is that no authority seems to be bothered with it, and it’s probably far to much trouble to check in the real world.
muckles:
It could be that the regulations were originally written to exclude drivers from taking a full weekly in their cab, or it was a typo that was missed when it was put into place.
The fact is that no authority seems to be bothered with it, and it’s probably far to much trouble to check in the real world.
Yes, I just think that the law was probably written by somebody who made a simple clerical error and that there never was any intention to prohibit 45 hour rests being taken in the cab, which is why it is not enforced. I did actually write to VOSA seeking clarification on this point and they didn’t even reply so I don’t think it’s an issue for them.
muckles:
It could be that the regulations were originally written to exclude drivers from taking a full weekly in their cab, or it was a typo that was missed when it was put into place.
The fact is that no authority seems to be bothered with it, and it’s probably far to much trouble to check in the real world.
Yes, I just think that the law was probably written by somebody who made a simple clerical error and that there never was any intention to prohibit 45 hour rests being taken in the cab, which is why it is not enforced. I did actually write to VOSA seeking clarification on this point and they didn’t even reply so I don’t think it’s an issue for them.
I agree with this. I just think its a simple oversight on he part of the legislators and nothing more. If anyone did try to prosecute we would at least have an answer and a precedent set, but I very much doubt anyone will try.
Andrejs:
Who can check i was 45 hours in truck.or not??legaly or not but if you stop at aire in FRANCE,AND you can see plenty d4ivers who stop for 45 hours
That’s why I asked. I know this is probably the most ignored piece of drivers hours regulations, so I was wondering how many people stuck to it. Or how many employers ignore it to avoid the expense.
so if you get out of truck and sleep on grass verge at side of it that’s OK
If that’s your choice, yes. the regulations don’t say where you can take your rest, only that you can’t take a full weekly rest in a vehicle.
They don’t say you can’t, they just don’t say you can either, neither do they say, if you shag your Missus when you get home on a 9hr daily rest, its not classed as a rest period.
I’d still get 8 hours 56 minutes daily rest anyway so don’t think it would be a problem.
Probably sign a printout or something, just to cover myself…
Can see it’s alright if you have time and get parked up within walk distance of civilisation but if you get caught short and are in the sticks those 2 days must drag by. I know the institutionalised will be along shooting me down they enjoy it, way of life etc, but suprised given the regulator are ■■■■ about a few minutes over the rules they don’t fuss that you’ve lived your private (weekend) life/ rest in a tin, in a layby, without a shower, without much at all potentially. The road regulator (DVSA) have clearly never heard of fatigue or quality of life issues creating insidious performance degradation. It’s 2014 chaps.
I wasn’t a three week tramper, more of an eight to ten weeks tramper but a hotel was a rarity, as you tend to max out your hours and if there is a hotel around where you’re parked for the weekend then that’s great but rarely does the hotel have a ■■■■■■■■■■■■ for lorries and I wouldn’t want to leave my truck unattended for two days in “little bucharest”.
the regulations don’t say where you can take your rest, only that you can’t take a full weekly rest in a vehicle.
but now ones arsed! 
take a bivvy, four rods, reels and fish for free all over France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Belgium and holland! 
stupid rule I agree BUT one day it will happen! CAB HOTEL anyone? 