3 day trial for dangerous driving

I do get what you are saying, but having never driven a tipper, let alone one with a raised bed. If he was literally straight onto a motorway, so only driving in a straight line, is it at all conceivable, that he didn’t know?

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Truck, lorry, wagon… I’m not sure anyone cares greatly about which label is used

I’ve always assumed BBQ was an Aussie thing, and no, we’re not into the other two especially not Black Friday, I always block all emails with that in it’s subject line. I think most of us know it’s a BS con and that you can get goods at good prices simply by shopping around

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Oh you have touched on my tender point, but unlike you, I have avoided publishing a correction. :rofl:

@remy You’re only partly right. Many American words that I and others get a bit wound up on are really English words that crossed the Atlantic, sometimes hundreds of years ago, but have now bounced back to haunt us

To give you one example that you mention ‘truck’, definitely old English, which I discovered before climbing down off my own high horse when Truck magazine started years ago. I still use ‘lorry’ though, even when I am on my habitual American drivers’ site. :joy:

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I think that Aussies have grabbed the BBQ in both hands and made it their own, but I don’t know about the invention of it?

We had railway trucks before we had lorries didn’t we? I remember reading of tilts covering wagons in Thomas Hardy, but have no idea where lorry came from?

Baby shower? Not around here. But maybe it is that I don’t know of them?

Black Friday? Widely used by advertisers it is true. But like all adverts not much to do with real life.

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Back to the subject, I am still a bit confused by this scenario. I may have missed it but how far was it from the tipping point to the accident site ?
Surely enough time to notice the vehicle was handling differently, the road noise would have been different, even the daylight in the cab is different with the body up.
I still cannot understand how the wagon (truck, lorry) got that far when even a cursory glance in either side mirror would have indicated that the body was still up.
From the photos I can’t tell if it is a manual or auto tailgate, if a manual it should have been closed and secured before leaving the site and joining the road (which of course means getting out and walking to the back of the wagon.

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When I was a kid in the '50s a truck was a railway wagon and a lorry went on the road. In the 19th cen. lorry was the word for a flatbed horse-drawn trailer and a tilt had a canvas or cloth canopy.

Truck was artificially introduced into our vocabulary by TRUCK magazine, which although very good in the '70s, was obsessed with using American road transport jargon like truck, reefer, rig and various words we never previously used. It became very fashionable overnight with the introduction of the CB in the same period. The arrival of Convoy in the late '70s was the final nail in the coffin. I have doggedly refused to use any of it (though I do occasionally describe myself as a lapsed trucker).

@remy: trailers are registered separately in many European countries but not UK. As for American power units and gearboxes, Cummins and Fuller went out of the window with Euro 5 & 6 regulations. Pity, because both were firm favourites of mine, despite being American :rofl:!

Sorry! I’ve just seen Gatehead’s post: yes, indeed let’s get back on topic :roll_eyes:

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Almost. UK trailers now need a reg document and plate if gong into Euroland.

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Not sure how far he had driven but wasn’t far he was delivering to a site just off M5 came out site round roundabout onto the M5 probably only a couple of miles before he came into contact with gantry.
Thing is as with everything these days .
Every other car driver etc was probably to busy taking videos and pictures.
Instead of trying to slow the truck down before he got onto the.motorway and alert the driver .
But no let’s just film it we won’t bother alerting the driver or authorities

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Alert him? :astonished:

It appears he was in a world all his own!
Blow a horn, but otherwise keep well away.

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Just saying I’m general people would rather film accidents amd bad driving n stuff rather than actually help out.ior phone 999 .
n this case yes obviously keep out the way

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It’s great to see someone doing something that they don’t give a quack about
It’s also great to see other people who have seen it not give a quack about it
It’s all about im alright Jack why should i report it and then be responsible for their actions as if i did something
After all i get paid by the hour so who’s going to pay me to go to court
Don’t it sound similarly like something drivers know about and think like

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Phone calls to the emergency services were received before he hit the gantry, so he must have come a fair distance for that to have happened

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