1968kg:
BTW What happens if your 10hour drive crosses 00.00 Monday? Which week does it count for and what if you start or finish at exactly midnight?
Was just about to ask this, as I usually start on a Sunday night
You can extend beyond 9 hours twice a week so which week it will be counted for will be at the point you go over 9 hours driving.
Start at 12:30 Sunday.
Other work 15 minutes
Drive 3.5 hours
Break 45 minutes
Drive 3.5 hours
Break 45 minutes
Drive 3 hours
Other work 15 minutes
Finish at 00:30 Monday
That would count for the week just ended at 00:00 Monday as you exceeded 9 hours driving before midnight.
Start at 13:30 Sunday.
Other work 15 minutes
Drive 3.5 hours
Break 45 minutes
Drive 3.5 hours
Break 45 minutes
Drive 3 hours
Other work 15 minutes
Finish at 01:30 Monday
That would count for the week just started at 00:00 Monday as you exceeded 9 hours driving after midnight.
Starting or finishing exactly at midnight makes no difference, it’s not when the shift starts or finishes that is relevant it’s when you extend the driving time.
So that just leaves the situation where you clock exactly 9 hrs driving at 00.00 Monday, it might not happen very often, granted but since we’re being pedantic which week would it count for then?
So that just leaves the situation where you clock exactly 9 hrs driving at 00.00 Monday, it might not happen very often, granted but since we’re being pedantic which week would it count for then?
Doesn’t matter. It’s not an extended drive as it’s 9 hours, not more than 9, so the week is irrelevant.The 9 hours would count to the weekly driving limit for the week just ending.
So that just leaves the situation where you clock exactly 9 hrs driving at 00.00 Monday, it might not happen very often, granted but since we’re being pedantic which week would it count for then?
Doesn’t matter. It’s not an extended drive as it’s 9 hours, not more than 9, so the week is irrelevant.The 9 hours would count to the weekly driving limit for the week just ending.
Sorry, I meant that you reach 9 hrs drive at midnight and then continue to drive for up to an hour.
I accept that I was wrong to say the week starts at 00.01 but if it starts at 00.00 it must finish at 23.59 and 59 seconds the following Sunday surely, as soon as it reaches 00.00 it’s the start if a new week?
How on earth would you know all that? And people are saying that its not a rocket science to drive a lorry is there a book or something with all the regs and all that
Trucker8oy:
How on earth would you know all that? And people are saying that its not a rocket science to drive a lorry is there a book or something with all the regs and all that
Must of us just learn the bits we just need to be concerned with. I don’t have a clue about split rests because I’ve not needed to do them.
So that just leaves the situation where you clock exactly 9 hrs driving at 00.00 Monday, it might not happen very often, granted but since we’re being pedantic which week would it count for then?
Doesn’t matter. It’s not an extended drive as it’s 9 hours, not more than 9, so the week is irrelevant.The 9 hours would count to the weekly driving limit for the week just ending.
Sorry, I meant that you reach 9 hrs drive at midnight and then continue to drive for up to an hour.
I accept that I was wrong to say the week starts at 00.01 but if it starts at 00.00 it must finish at 23.59 and 59 seconds the following Sunday surely, as soon as it reaches 00.00 it’s the start if a new week?
In that case the extended drive would be in the new week because you would go over 9 hours after the clock has ticked into the new week.
Radar19:
Must of us just learn the bits we just need to be concerned with. I don’t have a clue about split rests because I’ve not needed to do them.
It’s handy to know rules you can use them to your advantage at times, having a split daily rest could be the difference between nighting out on a Friday or getting home and going down the local.
ROG:
If your shift includes sunday midnight then the extension of the 9 hour driving time (up to max 10 hours) occurs in the week where it started to go over the 9
Thanks Guys, just to be clear on Sunday night at 23:55 I have just done 9:05 driving… it counts for the the week that is about to end
On Monday morning at 00:05 I am driving, and go 9:01 driving it counts for the week that lies ahead
Another question on a similar topic, Does the WTD get counted the same way? as in Sunday midnight to Sunday midnight?
If for example, if I do 58 hours work Monday - Friday, then I start at 19:00 on Sunday night (after a weekly rest) would the Sunday night hours up until midnight be added on to the 58 I had done Mon-Fri? or would my weekly rest reset this?
G6Bob:
Thanks Guys, just to be clear on Sunday night at 23:55 I have just done 9:05 driving… it counts for the the week that is about to end
Correct
G6Bob:
On Monday morning at 00:05 I am driving, and go 9:01 driving it counts for the week that lies ahead
Correct
G6Bob:
Another question on a similar topic, Does the WTD get counted the same way? as in Sunday midnight to Sunday midnight?
It does.
G6Bob:
If for example, if I do 58 hours work Monday - Friday, then I start at 19:00 on Sunday night (after a weekly rest) would the Sunday night hours up until midnight be added on to the 58 I had done Mon-Fri? or would my weekly rest reset this?
They would be added on, weekly rest doesn’t reset this.
G6Bob:
Thanks Guys, just to be clear on Sunday night at 23:55 I have just done 9:05 driving… it counts for the the week that is about to end
Correct
G6Bob:
On Monday morning at 00:05 I am driving, and go 9:01 driving it counts for the week that lies ahead
Correct
G6Bob:
Another question on a similar topic, Does the WTD get counted the same way? as in Sunday midnight to Sunday midnight?
It does.
G6Bob:
If for example, if I do 58 hours work Monday - Friday, then I start at 19:00 on Sunday night (after a weekly rest) would the Sunday night hours up until midnight be added on to the 58 I had done Mon-Fri? or would my weekly rest reset this?
They would be added on, weekly rest doesn’t reset this.
Thank you Coffee… I’m learning, you guys will make a professional out of me yet
Trucker8oy:
How on earth would you know all that? And people are saying that its not a rocket science to drive a lorry is there a book or something with all the regs and all that
Sorry to dig up this old thread, but I was searching for an answer to a question and this thread came up.
Someone asked a question and I didn’t know the answer , but the answer was on here.
He asked:
I work nights, extended my driving time on Thursday night, and again on Saturday night, I’m back in at 6pm Sunday night, can I use a 10hr drive…
And I actually didn’t know the answer, but the answer was yes as there’s no way he’d go over 9hrs driving time in 8hrs duty time
So, just popping this comment on to say thanks to Rog and to point out that I’m still learning
Coffeeholic:
You can extend beyond 9 hours twice a week so which week it will be counted for will be at the point you go over 9 hours driving.
Start at 12:30 Sunday.
Other work 15 minutes
Drive 3.5 hours
Break 45 minutes
Drive 3.5 hours
Break 45 minutes
Drive 3 hours
Other work 15 minutes
Finish at 00:30 Monday
That would count for the week just ended at 00:00 Monday as you exceeded 9 hours driving before midnight.
Start at 13:30 Sunday.
Other work 15 minutes
Drive 3.5 hours
Break 45 minutes
Drive 3.5 hours
Break 45 minutes
Drive 3 hours
Other work 15 minutes
Finish at 01:30 Monday
That would count for the week just started at 00:00 Monday as you exceeded 9 hours driving after midnight.
Starting or finishing exactly at midnight makes no difference, it’s not when the shift starts or finishes that is relevant it’s when you extend the driving time.
Excellent Info, just what I was looking for as I’m working Fri - Mon, back shift / nights ;
Coffeeholic:
You can extend beyond 9 hours twice a week so which week it will be counted for will be at the point you go over 9 hours driving.
Start at 12:30 Sunday.
Other work 15 minutes
Drive 3.5 hours
Break 45 minutes
Drive 3.5 hours
Break 45 minutes
Drive 3 hours
Other work 15 minutes
Finish at 00:30 Monday
That would count for the week just ended at 00:00 Monday as you exceeded 9 hours driving before midnight.
Start at 13:30 Sunday.
Other work 15 minutes
Drive 3.5 hours
Break 45 minutes
Drive 3.5 hours
Break 45 minutes
Drive 3 hours
Other work 15 minutes
Finish at 01:30 Monday
That would count for the week just started at 00:00 Monday as you exceeded 9 hours driving after midnight.
Starting or finishing exactly at midnight makes no difference, it’s not when the shift starts or finishes that is relevant it’s when you extend the driving time.
Excellent Info, just what I was looking for as I’m working Fri - Mon, back shift / nights ;
Whilst that makes sense and what I’ve said in the past, the current dvsa software allocates the 10 into the fixed week that it finishes in
So finish driving at 0001 on Monday morning and the 10 is in that coming week, I don’t think it makes sense like that, but that’s what a dvsa dude told me 1st hand who tested this very question
is there a book or something with all the regs and all that 
, but the answer was on here.