1962/63 winter

On way from Glasgow to London Snow had already started and just got worse then the freezzing Fog came down as you were travelling Ice about an Inch thick was forming the front of the Wagon and the back of the Mirrors, anyway struggled to get there managed to get a Bed Lou Smiths in Wood Green,then could not do much as the Fog cleared about Eleven and came back down about Two,stayed there for a few Days managed to get tipped and loaded set of for Home got as far as Alconbury was stuck there for a Day or Two then managed to get to Peterborough was lucky to get a Bed for the Night as all the Digs packed full all the Drivers that normally cabbed it were all in as well,then got the Haven at Doncaster the Road was just like a Battlefield Cars Lorries everything stranded littered in Fields side of the Roads Drivers trying to start Lorries some had set them on Fire by putting a Fire below the Engine i heard, then got as far as BIll Earlies in Catterick Village and got in for the Night all the Cafes were packed full they were taking in everybody that turned up,they were sleeping in corridors on the tables on the Landings anywhere there was a Space to lie down,set of from there got the George Hotel Brough with a struggle,think at the time it was the Hotel at Greta Bridge that refused to serve Lorry Drivers,anyway struggled for the rest of the way home. Ben.

Great stuff, IIRC There was some fantastic photos in the cafe at Brough showing snow drifts as high as the cafe, They were the days when drivers were drivers & coped with all weather conditions, I do hope a lot of them are still about like myself at 85 years old & still breathing & drinking my Single Malts . Take care everyone & stay safe, Regards Larry. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:.

At 85 Larry I suppose you’ve had your first vaccination. Did you have any side effects? I’m 82, my domestic facilities manageress and myself have had our 1st, #2 is April 1st.
This last few days I’ve been ‘attending to’ a nice bottle of Talisker and watching the snow (and the struggling drivers) from my front window. Us old 'uns have done our winters on the road, time now for a nice taste of malt and keeping warm. :slight_smile:

grumpy old man:
At 85 Larry I suppose you’ve had your first vaccination. Did you have any side effects? I’m 82, my domestic facilities manageress and myself have had our 1st, #2 is April 1st.
This last few days I’ve been ‘attending to’ a nice bottle of Talisker and watching the snow (and the struggling drivers) from my front window. Us old 'uns have done our winters on the road, time now for a nice taste of malt and keeping warm. :slight_smile:

Hi GOM, We have had ours too, No side affects, Unless having a few more Single Malts would be classed as a one, :laughing: ,Take care & stay safe, Regards Larry.

Lawrence Dunbar:
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grumpy old man:
At 85 Larry I suppose you’ve had your first vaccination. Did you have any side effects? I’m 82, my domestic facilities manageress and myself have had our 1st, #2 is April 1st.
This last few days I’ve been ‘attending to’ a nice bottle of Talisker and watching the snow (and the struggling drivers) from my front window. Us old 'uns have done our winters on the road, time now for a nice taste of malt and keeping warm. :slight_smile:

Hi GOM, We have had ours too, No side affects, Unless having a few more Single Malts would be classed as a one, :laughing: ,Take care & stay safe, Regards Larry.

By heck Larry it’s 20odd years since I last saw you at Canklow Mill and you haven’t changed apart from us all getting older . Keep taking the highland preservative!

Hi Rigsby, Defo good advice :smiley: , This twenty odd years ago, Regards Larry.

It’s a funny thing about that winter. I was 14, at school at St Bees in what was then ■■■■■■■■■■■ and at home in Barrow (Lancashire then!) for the holidays. I don’t remember very much snow at either place. I don’t remember any rugby games being called off. Maybe my memory has seized up. I see that Larry over in the North East and people from Derbyshire had it bad, plus of course the A66. Also there was an article about it last Sunday, about London, Essex and Kent, but I wonder if the Pennines shielded us on the West side? How was it in Kendal Dennis?

John West:
It’s a funny thing about that winter. I was 14, at school at St Bees in what was then ■■■■■■■■■■■ and at home in Barrow (Lancashire then!) for the holidays. I don’t remember very much snow at either place. I don’t remember any rugby games being called off. Maybe my memory has seized up. I see that Larry over in the North East and people from Derbyshire had it bad, plus of course the A66. Also there was an article about it last Sunday, about London, Essex and Kent, but I wonder if the Pennines shielded us on the West side? How was it in Kendal Dennis?

Hiya John,
Yes funnily enough I can recall the winter of 62/63 as in the January of 63 I was 15 and still at Longlands Boys School in Kendal and I remember our English Teacher ,Jack Cragg, telling us to look out the windows way across Appleby Road and up towards where the main line ran and for us to take note of the brown fields ( no snow !) as it may be a long time until we ever saw them in this state again and I think he was correct as I haven’t seen them as bad ever over the many years since then ! But we just had hard frost in the Kent valley as it is very rare we get very much snow in Kendal although travel just a mile or two out of town then you get into what is called locally as the " snow line" and apparently farmland located within the snow line is valued quite a bit less per acre than that below the “line”. But on many occasions pre the M6 you knew when Shap was closed as the town quickly filled up with lorries, nose to tail around all the accessible roads ! Cheers Dennis.

Lawrence Dunbar:
0Hi Rigsby, Defo good advice :smiley: , This twenty odd years ago, Regards Larry.

Is there a like button :smiley: :sunglasses:

Bewick:

John West:
It’s a funny thing about that winter. I was 14, at school at St Bees in what was then ■■■■■■■■■■■ and at home in Barrow (Lancashire then!) for the holidays. I don’t remember very much snow at either place. I don’t remember any rugby games being called off. Maybe my memory has seized up. I see that Larry over in the North East and people from Derbyshire had it bad, plus of course the A66. Also there was an article about it last Sunday, about London, Essex and Kent, but I wonder if the Pennines shielded us on the West side? How was it in Kendal Dennis?

Hiya John,
Yes funnily enough I can recall the winter of 62/63 as in the January of 63 I was 15 and still at Longlands Boys School in Kendal and I remember our English Teacher ,Jack Cragg, telling us to look out the windows way across Appleby Road and up towards where the main line ran and for us to take note of the brown fields ( no snow !) as it may be a long time until we ever saw them in this state again and I think he was correct as I haven’t seen them as bad ever over the many years since then ! But we just had hard frost in the Kent valley as it is very rare we get very much snow in Kendal although travel just a mile or two out of town then you get into what is called locally as the " snow line" and apparently farmland located within the snow line is valued quite a bit less per acre than that below the “line”. But on many occasions pre the M6 you knew when Shap was closed as the town quickly filled up with lorries, nose to tail around all the accessible roads ! Cheers Dennis.

There seem to be a lot of us all about the same age and I was 14 also, we were not at school as every thing was frozen up so as kids we had an extended break. No home schooling back then and as I lived on a farm there were plenty of chores thrown my way thats for sure but in a moment of inspiration one decided to make a harness out of baler twine for our robust collie X dog who was quite a size, we had a sledge with brass runners on that slid lovely on packed snow but with all that effort it did not work as even at that age I was too much weight for Yogi the dog. Remember also the old man had to load the milk churns on a trailer and take them up to the main road which was just passable with effort from Mr Dears milk collection lorry, he took it into Brown & Harrisons dairy in Southampton where it was bottled and sold on’ It was a nightmare on the farm with freezing water pipes and burst ones too but somehow we managed to keep things running and that was in the sunny South of England, chairs Buzzer.

Punchy Dan:

Lawrence Dunbar:
0Hi Rigsby, Defo good advice :smiley: , This twenty odd years ago, Regards Larry.

Is there a like button :smiley: :sunglasses:

Go for it Dan , Regards Larry. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Bewick:

John West:
It’s a funny thing about that winter. I was 14, at school at St Bees in what was then ■■■■■■■■■■■ and at home in Barrow (Lancashire then!) for the holidays. I don’t remember very much snow at either place. I don’t remember any rugby games being called off. Maybe my memory has seized up. I see that Larry over in the North East and people from Derbyshire had it bad, plus of course the A66. Also there was an article about it last Sunday, about London, Essex and Kent, but I wonder if the Pennines shielded us on the West side? How was it in Kendal Dennis?

Hiya John,
Yes funnily enough I can recall the winter of 62/63 as in the January of 63 I was 15 and still at Longlands Boys School in Kendal and I remember our English Teacher ,Jack Cragg, telling us to look out the windows way across Appleby Road and up towards where the main line ran and for us to take note of the brown fields ( no snow !) as it may be a long time until we ever saw them in this state again and I think he was correct as I haven’t seen them as bad ever over the many years since then ! But we just had hard frost in the Kent valley as it is very rare we get very much snow in Kendal although travel just a mile or two out of town then you get into what is called locally as the " snow line" and apparently farmland located within the snow line is valued quite a bit less per acre than that below the “line”. But on many occasions pre the M6 you knew when Shap was closed as the town quickly filled up with lorries, nose to tail around all the accessible roads ! Cheers Dennis.

Winter South East 1980’s style. :wink:

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John West:
It’s a funny thing about that winter. I was 14, at school at St Bees in what was then ■■■■■■■■■■■ and at home in Barrow (Lancashire then!) for the holidays. I don’t remember very much snow at either place. I don’t remember any rugby games being called off. Maybe my memory has seized up. I see that Larry over in the North East and people from Derbyshire had it bad, plus of course the A66. Also there was an article about it last Sunday, about London, Essex and Kent, but I wonder if the Pennines shielded us on the West side? How was it in Kendal Dennis?

Maybe it’s my thingy… umm…wotsit… memory! :unamused: (I knew I’d get there) but I think that winter was worse (for snow at least) the further south you went.

I was 2 going on 3 at the time, so I think I might’ve been too young to be driving for even the most unscrupulous of firms.

I was 19 in April 1963,i missed the whole lot of that winter ,i was on a ship called the CUSCO down the Chilean coast, Christmas day was arriving in VALPARISO.
LORRIES in my little world did not exist until 1965,untill 2002.early medical retirement. dbp,

I remember it well, and can tell a few stories about it. I only worked in winter at that time and my dad got me a job with the car delivery firm he worked for at Cowley. He delivered individual cars, as they did back then, but my job was to ferry cars out of the factory, into the yard, which was situated next to Johnson’s cafe. The Minor 1000’s were out of 15 gate, which was only a few hundred yards away, for which we got a shilling a car. The bigger cars like Oxford’s Wolesleys etc. were in a field on the Horspath road, a couple of miles away. For these cars we got half a crown, (two shillings & six pence). How it worked was you had a handful of cards with the type of car & the colour. When you matched the car, you checked all was in order & complete with accessories and proceeded to the gate, popped the bonnet, where the gate copper would log all the relevant details on to the paper work and hand you several copies. Now this worked very well in normal times, but that winter it was near impossible to manage. For a start they were just huge bumps in the snow, being snowed on day after day and freezing more every night, it was impossible to see what colour they were. If & when you could move a bit of snow to determine the colour, you then had to get the door & boot open. Sometimes, having got that far, you could turn the key, press the starter & find the battery was near lifeless, so you would have to abandon that one. The factory ran a J4 mini bus, on a constant round run, for all the firms ferriers to use, but the woman who was showing me the ropes wouldn’t wait for it, so we were walking miles, often in blizzard conditions. Every day was a living hell for me and there was no chance of reaching the target to get above the basic pay, so in a few weeks I was looking for another job. This I found when I saw a ad for drivers at Hartwells Oils, but more on that later.

I was 7 years old then, lived in Hertfordshire, long private road which led up to the lane which led in turn to the village.
Snow was 3 ft deep on all roads, after a couple of weeks or more it was obvious a natural thaw wasn’t coming (i wasn’t bothered about missing school) so Dad plus next door neighbour Mr Frost (yes first name Jack :laughing: ) and i started the long dig out by hand, after a couple of days we’d probably cleared half a mile before we met Farmer William’s JCB type machine coming the other way who was digging the road out somewhat faster.
Thankfully coal fired heating and quite possibly a coal fired Rayburn if i remember correctly, when the penny drops for the current population that we aint actually warming at all many will wish they weren’t so reliant on electricity for everything.

Enjoyed the snow this year, even more cos coincidentally i was on holiday, we had a marvellous time with the dogs out and about.

I was 9 at the time but I have better memories of the 61/62 winter before. We moved house in the first or second week of January 62; before the move it had been a trolleybus to School in SW London and they did not like the frost and ice on the overhead with lots of arcing, flashes of blue and a slow jerky ride. In January 62 it snowed and it was an RT bus from the opposite direction if it turned up. Often, as in the following winter, I would walk half way and pick up a trolleybus again, with more snow they lost traction pulling away from the stops. The most noticeable thing when it snowed hard was that you had to wait until the bus stopped to look at the side blind to tell which route it was on, since the front one was covered in snow.

Juddian:
Thankfully coal fired heating and quite possibly a coal fired Rayburn if i remember correctly, when the penny drops for the current population that we aint actually warming at all many will wish they weren’t so reliant on electricity for everything.

Yep just wait until they are paying 20p per kwh and rising for domestic heating and hot water wondering what happened to the 3p per kwh we pay for gas.

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Global Warming bs.