Kate Hasler:
Just listen to george bush and how many references he makes to God in his speeches. So much for separation of church and state… and so much for equality without regard to religion.
Hypocritical isn’t it■■?
Is that part of the constitution?
In the UK the Queen is head of state and church, this has been the case since Henry the eighth founded the Church of England. ![:confused: :confused:](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/twitter/confused.png?v=12)
Church and state throughout history have been linked, since Constantine founded the Church of Rome,… then Oliver Cromwell banned Christmas as a heathen festival.
What I think is hypocritcal is that they preach peace then start wars??!! What’s that all about mo’ fo’s. (mo fo = moronic fool) ![:laughing: :laughing:](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/twitter/laughing.png?v=12)
Pat Hasler:
My personal opinion is that 90% of wars are caused by religion. If there were no religion this would be a far safer planet to live on.
I cannot look at the sufering that goes on worldwide, children and other innocents being mutilated by sick, crazy, people and even groups calling them selves freedom fighters. I cannot see the things that paedophiles do to small children or what terrorists do to thousands of inocents world wide, or what US and UK forces do to Iraqis (not taking sides) and truly believe there is a god.
If there is why doesn’t he stop these things happening?
Thought about these things myself.
First point unscrupulous people will use any excuse to scam you and control people, religion as been a good tool for that.
eg.
The Inquisitions
The Crusades
TV evangelists
Give money guilt trip s’ (s’=slaver) ![:laughing: :laughing:](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/twitter/laughing.png?v=12)
But is also a force for good, but do people really need it to help one another?
Did Jesus intiate ‘organised religion’? ![:confused: :confused:](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/twitter/confused.png?v=12)
If you don’t believe in God why have Christmas? ![:confused: :confused:](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/twitter/confused.png?v=12)
I never really thought about it either way undecided I think. ![:sunglasses: :sunglasses:](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/twitter/sunglasses.png?v=12)
But when I watched the programme I couldn’t accept that todays world leaders could be influenced by religous leaders. I thought that finished ages ago■■? ![:open_mouth: :open_mouth:](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/twitter/open_mouth.png?v=12)
I like to see more votes please. Undecided also = couldn’t give a fig. ![:smiling_imp: :smiling_imp:](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/twitter/smiling_imp.png?v=12)
TC:
I believe what I see!
Can you see the wind, electricity, radiation, heat and most energy forces.
You can see a spiders web who designed it, - the spider■■? ![:confused: :confused:](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/twitter/confused.png?v=12)
wheel Nut:
Religion is legalised terrorism isnt it?
It used to be, do as we say , the pope is infallable, you’re going to hell to be tortured for eternity
even though you only bonked the next doors neighbours wife once for a hour. ![:sunglasses: :sunglasses:](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/twitter/sunglasses.png?v=12)
Or do you mean Voodoo religion
![:astonished: :astonished:](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/twitter/astonished.png?v=12)