reduced rest.

when i take a reduced rest of 24 hours i normally take a 45 hour rest the following week. but one of our lads reckons you could take a 24 every week for three weeks, then take 69 hours each week for the next three weeks.
i don’t believe him, as it just dosn’t seem right. but my vosa book dosn’t prove him wrong.

in the real world its very unlikely you will have 69 hours off for 3 weekends, and if its not in the book, who’s to say vosa won’t throw it at ya

that dont seem to ring right phil, thought you had to have a 45 in the 3 weeks or on the 2nd week esp? so how can you take 3 x 24 every week■■?

In any two week period you must have at least one weekly rest period of at least 45 hours. Therefore it is not possible to only have reduced weekly rests in three consecutive weeks.

You are correct not to believe him and if by VOSA book you mean the gv262 guide they publish it proves him wrong at the bottom of page 18

I read the regs in a slightly different way to Mr Green.

In any two consecutive weeks a driver shall take at least:

– two regular weekly rest periods, or
– one regular weekly rest period and one reduced weekly
rest period of at least 24 hours.

However, the reduction
shall be compensated by an equivalent period of rest
taken en bloc before the end of the third week following
the week in question.

so like i say in every 2 weeks you have to have a 1x 45,

globby 480:
so like i say in every 2 weeks you have to have a 1x 45,

Correct.

globby 480:
that dont seem to ring right phil, thought you had to have a 45 in the 3 weeks or on the 2nd week esp? so how can you take 3 x 24 every week■■?

you can take a 24 hour rest after six days, then take another 24 after six days. but my vosa book dosn’t say it the way i thought it was.

24,45,45,45+24. is the way i’ve done it in the past.

you sure phil? as i read it as you have to take a 45 after a reduced period,ie 2nd week, and the 3rd week must have pay back aswell, unless youre having 24 of throught the week as well, but on the 6 x day rule 1x24,1x45,1x 45 plus pay back for the 1 st week in reduction ie 24hrs??

limeyphil:

globby 480:
that dont seem to ring right phil, thought you had to have a 45 in the 3 weeks or on the 2nd week esp? so how can you take 3 x 24 every week■■?

you can take a 24 hour rest after six days, then take another 24 after six days.

You could do that but it depends how those days fall in relation to the calendar week. In any two calendar weeks you must have at least one rest of at least 45 hours. If your example begins on a Monday then you would need to begin a rest of at least 45 hours before the end of the second Sunday.

globby 480:
you sure phil? as i read it as you have to take a 45 after a reduced period,ie 2nd week, and the 3rd week must have pay back aswell,

You don’t have to make the pay back in the 3rd week. You have to make the hours up by the end of the third week following the reduction.

Example

Week 1 - 24 hours rest.

Week 2 - 45 hours rest

Week 3 - 30 hours rest.

Week 4 - at least 66 hours rest, 45 for this week and 21 for the reduction in week 1.

The 15 hours from the reduction in week 3 would have to be paid back before the end of week 6.

globby 480:
you sure phil? as i read it as you have to take a 45 after a reduced period,ie 2nd week, and the 3rd week must have pay back aswell, unless youre having 24 of throught the week as well, but on the 6 x day rule 1x24,1x45,1x 45 plus pay back for the 1 st week in reduction ie 24hrs??

sorry mate i wrote the last bit wrong. it should have said “he said you can”, not just “you can”.

Coffeeholic:

globby 480:
you sure phil? as i read it as you have to take a 45 after a reduced period,ie 2nd week, and the 3rd week must have pay back aswell,

You don’t have to make the pay back in the 3rd week. You have to make the hours up by the end of the third week following the reduction.

Example

Week 1 - 24 hours rest.

Week 2 - 45 hours rest

Week 3 - 30 hours rest.

Week 4 - at least 66 hours rest, 45 for this week and 21 for the reduction in week 1.

The 15 hours from the reduction in week 3 would have to be paid back before the end of week 6.

loosing this at the mo coffee,■■?
rest 24 hrs 1 st week,
rest 45 in 2nd week,
rest 30 in 3rd week… all which have 6 or even 7 cards, for reduction,
yep i am with you now was always on the understanding that the 3rd week all pay back was to be made, for the 1st weeks reduction, but still in every two weeks you need a min of 45 hrs off not inc payback

easyiest way just throw every fri and sats card away then you dont have this problem joking,joking

globby 480:
yep i am with you now was always on the understanding that the 3rd week all pay back was to be made, for the 1st weeks reduction, but still in every two weeks you need a min of 45 hrs off not inc payback

Correct.

globby 480:
easyiest way just throw every fri and sats card away then you dont have this problem joking,joking

Sounds good, or use the second digi card you cunningly applied for after reporting your first one lost.

coffeeholic have you been reciving!! my mail

globby 480:
coffeeholic have you been reciving!! my mail

I suppose in my simple terms again

The GV 262 booklet and the 561/2006 regs both mention.

In any 2 consecutive weeks a driver must have taken one full rest period and one reduced rest period or 2 full rest periods

45hrs - Week 1
24hrs - week 2
24hrs - week 3
45hrs - week 4

or

45hrs - Week 1
24hrs - week 2
45hrs - week 3
24hrs - week 4

Am I making something up here?

It Can be done with two rests of less than 45 hours in a row

Holiday for a week - full weekly rest for week 1
week 1 work Mon to sat
36 hours rest for week 2
week 2 work mon to sat
36 hours rest but only used to stop going over 6 day (144 hour) rule
week 3 work mon to fri
60 hours weekly rest for week 3 (easily paid back for reduced in week 1)

Wheel Nut:
I suppose in my simple terms again

The GV 262 booklet and the 561/2006 regs both mention.

In any 2 consecutive weeks a driver must have taken one full rest period and one reduced rest period or 2 full rest periods

45hrs - Week 1
24hrs - week 2
24hrs - week 3
45hrs - week 4

Am I making something up here?

Yes you are. There are three two week periods in your example. Week 1 and week 2, week 3 and week 4 and week 2 and week 3. in your example you don’t have a break of at least 45 hours in the two weeks of week 2 and 3.

ROG:
It Can be done with two rests of less than 45 hours in a row

Nobody has said you cannot have two, or more reduced weekly rest periods in a row, that is not what the regulations prohibit and not what the question is about. I recently, quite legally did 3 reduced weekly rest periods in a row.